Blaine: OH? Well, now tell us more Kevin. You have all of these quotes from LDS people, how about a few Baptist quotes to prove what you are saying. Or do you just collect LDS quotes?
That is your job. IF YOU CAN....Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine: OH? Well, now tell us more Kevin. You have all of these quotes from LDS people, how about a few Baptist quotes to prove what you are saying. Or do you just collect LDS quotes?----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:51 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL UPWARDEveryone knows, Baptists do not Baptize infants
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Blaine: I have done of lot of names extraction for the LDS Church, mostly
Presbyterian ancestors, and ALL of them had their children baptized as
infants. I have done the same for Baptist ancestors, and ALL of them had
their children baptised as infants. DaveM is apparently correct, as per
below.
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL UPWARD
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Blaine wrote:
> The Protestant doctrine as I have always understood it
> is that men both inherit the potential for sin, and are
> born with that sin upon them, therefore having need of
> Baptism for the remission of that sin.
>
> Perry wrote:
> This is where you have it wrong...protestants believe
> only in #2.
>
> DavidM:
> Perry, there are Protestants who believe in infant baptism. For example,
> this position is held by Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians and
> Presbyterians. The main original reformers, such as Martin Luther and
> John Calvin, strongly believed in infant baptism.
>
> Judy:
> Both Martin Luther and John Calvin were fresh out of the RCC
> at the time of the Protestant Reformation and some of this ritual
> stuck.
>
> DavidM:
> It seems to me that Judy does not believe in #2 version of Original Sin.
> She said that Jesus would be guilty if he had any inheritance from Adam.
>
> Judy:
> Big IF there DavidM. I don't believe Jesus was born with a spiritual
> inheritance in the first Adam.
>
> DavidM:
> She has expressed agreement with number 2, but her comments do
> not seem to follow! that. I cannot find any logical consistency in her
> comments to really know at this time exactly what she believes about
> original sin and guilt.
>
> Judy:
> I fail to see why logic is so important here. I would think consistency
> with scriptural truth would be of paramount importance in this
> discussion.
>
> DavidM:
> Judy also has introduced a term, "spiritual inheritance" from
> Adam. This needs further explanation as I only perceive in physical
> inheritance from Adam and nothing spiritual at all.
>
> Judy:
> What can I say? I was under the impression we were dealing with
> spiritual realities here. After all deception is a spiritual condition
> is
> it not. Eve was deceived by the wrong spirit and Adam took no stand
> but rather chose to go along with her. God is Spirit, satan is spirit.
> We are discussing the spirit of truth vs the spirit of error are we not?
> Sure the first Adam was created a living soul but the second Adam is
> a life-giving Spirit because the need is a spiritual one.
>
> "We have received the spirit which is of God that we might know
> the things that are freely given to us of God which things also we
> speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the
> Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
> (1 Corinthians 2:12-14)
>
> Grace and Peace,
> Judy
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