Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

[Dave]

DAVEH:  Hi John.......This is a thread I'd like to pursue, but am rather short on time right now.  I'm leaving for a couple weeks, so it may be a month or two before I can get back to it.  Do you want to hold onto your thoughts that long?  If so.....remind me as we approach summer.   Thanx in advance! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/11/2004 11:29:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Thanx for the offer, John.  At this point in time, I don't think I am comfortable with understanding grace as you apparently must Why not?   The scriptures and biblical references to grace verses law are in the same Bible Mormons possess.  Right there in black and white.   Jere 31:31-34 reads the same as in my Bible.   Romans 3 bears the same teaching.   Hebrews explains the same redemptive sacrifice.  I Cor 8:1-3 makes our relationship in love with God more important than religious oriented (or any other kind)  knowledge as precisely in your Bible as mineand so on.       This biblical teaching of unmerited forgiveness makes the primary need for a second effort (Mormonism) a non issue.   God did not get it wrong the first time.   He did not misunderstand the wickedness of those whom he intended to save.   He is not out of control when it comes to the history of man's walk with Him.   As I see it, the claim that God failed to get it right with the New Covenant is amazing.   If not, why not. John -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.