John S. wrote:
>... you are admitting that there is nothing out
>there that verifies his associations, credentials,
>and evangelistic successes - right?
No, I am not admitting that. You can go look for them if you want. I
knew the man, so I don't waste time looking up stuff like that. That
would be like me trying to look up third party support for Jesus
actually existing and dying for the sins of the world. What a waste of
time!
I can go look them up ???!!!! No place to look, is there David. I am told to test the spirits to see whether they are of God. My desire to verify the extraordinary claims of HH is certainly not out of line with scriptural injunction. I would expect Billy Graham to reference him somewhere. I would think Mordecai Ham would mention his name. I would expect to find some reference in Catholic literature. His PhD -- is it wrong for me to question these claims? (Keep in mind that I do not care where he earned the PhD -- just that he did as claimed.) An evangelist who converted 40,000 to 70,000 Jews should have a footnote somewhere in American historical annuals, to say the least. Thousands of hippies? What street preacher has ever had such success??? If it all be truth - only HH. And no mention of him anywhere. The historical record does not omit someone who was quietly successful at such a level of accomplishment. Why is it that he is the only HIGHLY successful street preacher without historical footnote? And why am I the bad guy for putting these questions to you expecting a real answer?
John S. wrote:
>And if internet resources are of no account, the
>positives are gone as well - and there is one
>site that extolls his ministry.
I never meant to convey that internet resources are of no account, but
you certainly should not read one or two websites and then declare that
the man was a fraud! You need to check out what you read and consider
the bias of their presentation.
Here we go with that circular logic of yours. In this paragraph you tell me to "check out" what I read. In the former paragraph, you reducible that very process (That would be like looking up third party support for Jesus .....")
Be swift to hear and slow to speak.
Easy for you to say. David, something is wrong with this HH mythology. Maybe nothing wrong with the man but the myth seems to be something very different. Perhaps Lindsey is not the fraud in all this? But something is soarly wrong with the story. Who are his disciples? Elsman and those who are influenced by him -- who else?
John
