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Sent: May 03, 2004 17:35
Subject: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert
Lindsey
No, he was not insane, and never a braver man would you ever meet.
jt: God gives us the power to do whatever we are
called to. Hubert's preaching sounds a little "out there" I
found the following on "The page of anxiety" on the
internet: "Dr. Holy Hubert Lindsey."
People would call in and ask the Doctor questions about the Bible, or to argue
about Tongues, capitol punishment, salvation, and the like. Dr. Lindsey would
then pronounce judgment, not just on the matter at hand, but also on the
caller, Christendom, and society in general. Not one to mince words, The
Doctor had apparently reached a point his life and career where he cared
little what anyone thought of him or his message, and was quick to point out
the callers' motives, spiritual condition, intellectual capacity or sexual
orientation. Why do you and the Street
Preachers appear to revere Hubert so much? Almost like a present day
icon. What about Corrie Ten Boom? Was she out of God's will? A
rebellious woman? She was out speaking/teaching and was not under
submission to any man. Her messages lifted up Jesus and were not
personally judgmental/demeaning (it is the ministry of the Holy Spirit to
convict of sin); she didn't condemn even when confronted with the man who
executed her sister in a German Prison Camp when he came fwd in one of her
meetings to receive Christ.
John S. wrote: Nothing holy about Hubert -- a man who claim to
have converted Bill Graham,
Hubert never said that he personally, single-handedly, converted Billy
Graham, if that is what you mean. Hubert was preaching a revival with
Mordecai Ham, when Billy Graham responded to an altar call for salvation at
the age of 16. Do you have some information that would repudiate
this? I checked out Hubert's story in Billy Graham's book, "Just As
I Am,"
where Graham tells the whole story of his conversion at these
meetings. It confirms just about everything in Hubert's testimony about
it. He mentions Modecai Ham by name, just as we might expect from
Hubert's account. I don't remember Graham mentioning Hubert Lindsey by
name in his book, but that is not unusual to give only the primary evangelist
the recognition. Billy Graham simply subtitles the chapter with,
"Itinerant Evangelists." Hubert was one of those evangelists who
preached this revival with Mordecai Ham where Billy Graham was
converted. If you read the account from Graham, it sounds like Hubert's
style of preaching all the way. He describes the sermons as being about
sin, judgment and Hell. Billy Graham wrote, "What was slowly dawning on
me during those weeks was the miserable realization that I did not
know
Jesus Christ for myself. I could not depend on my parents'
faith." At the time, Billy Graham was a Presbyterian who had been
baptized as an infant. Later, Billy Graham writes, "For all my previous
religious upbringing and church activity, I believe that that was the moment I
made my real commitment to Jesus Christ." So Hubert spoke the truth about
Billy Graham's conversion. Why do you call Hubert a liar?
John S. wrote: ... converted over 40.000 Jews and thousands of
hippies and conducted services at a 2000 member
church -- which
in fact was his service garage.
jt: The above is from the internet. His Church
in the 1980's was apparently a converted service garage and the number of
Jews and hippies converted under his ministry is quoted on the internet
as from his own mouth. I know it's the web of
a million lies but reports about Hubert's ministry are remarkably similar and
the same kind of thing continues with Jed Smock, Daniel, Ruben and Spingola
even to the point of fist fights. What kind of a spirit is that?
Did you know Hubert? Are you reporting some first hand information
here, or gossip that you obtained off the internet?
John S. wrote:
A complete impostor, full of vile and
hatred. A reprobate in the truest sense of the word.
John, I am truly shocked that you would say something like this.
Hubert was a spiritual father to me. I guess that does not surprise you.
Maybe you think the same thing about me. Hubert was one of the most
loving men I have ever known. He was anything but full of vile and
hatred. Not even his enemies ever characterized him like this. He
was beat up hundreds of times for preaching Christ, shot, stabbed, you name
it. Hubert was arrested 100 times for preaching Christ and never
convicted of a crime. He always turned the other cheek and loved his
neighbor. Through a broken jaw, he
would tell his attackers that
Jesus loved them and he did too. There were many men who were converted
through Hubert's unquenched love for them, and they are preaching the gospel
today.
jt: I suppose I should ask Jim Ellsman - do you know
if Hubert ever had a meeting with the Pope? I saw that reported also and have
to wonder about it. It seems a bit out of character, but then if he
studied under a Rabbi and was into so much legalism - who knows it may be
so.