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Sent: May 03, 2004 17:35
Subject: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert
Lindsey
No, he was not insane, and never a braver man would you ever
meet.
jt: God gives us the power to do whatever we are
called to. Hubert's preaching sounds a little "out there" I
found the following on "The page of anxiety" on the
internet: "Dr. Holy Hubert
Lindsey." People would call in and ask the Doctor questions about the Bible,
or to argue about Tongues, capitol punishment, salvation, and the like. Dr.
Lindsey would then pronounce judgment, not just on the matter at hand, but
also on the caller, Christendom, and society in general. Not one to mince
words, The Doctor had apparently reached a point his life and career where
he cared little what anyone thought of him or his message, and was quick to
point out the callers' motives, spiritual condition, intellectual capacity
or sexual orientation. Why do you and
the Street Preachers appear to revere Hubert so much? Almost like a
present day icon. What about Corrie Ten Boom? Was she out of God's
will? A rebellious woman? She was out speaking/teaching and
was not under submission to any man. Her messages lifted up Jesus
and were not personally judgmental/demeaning (it is the ministry
of the Holy Spirit to convict of sin); she didn't condemn even when
confronted with the man who executed her sister in a German Prison Camp when
he came fwd in one of her meetings to receive Christ.
John S. wrote: Nothing holy about Hubert -- a man who
claim to have converted Bill Graham,
Hubert never said that he personally, single-handedly, converted Billy
Graham, if that is what you mean. Hubert was preaching a revival with
Mordecai Ham, when Billy Graham responded to an altar call for salvation at
the age of 16. Do you have some information that would repudiate
this? I checked out Hubert's story in Billy Graham's book, "Just
As I Am,"
where Graham tells the whole story of his conversion at these
meetings. It confirms just about everything in Hubert's testimony
about it. He mentions Modecai Ham by name, just as we might expect
from Hubert's account. I don't remember Graham mentioning Hubert
Lindsey by name in his book, but that is not unusual to give only the
primary evangelist the recognition. Billy Graham simply subtitles the
chapter with, "Itinerant Evangelists." Hubert was one of those
evangelists who preached this revival with Mordecai Ham where Billy Graham
was converted. If you read the account from Graham, it sounds like
Hubert's style of preaching all the way. He describes the sermons as
being about sin, judgment and Hell. Billy Graham wrote, "What was
slowly dawning on me during those weeks was the miserable realization that I
did not know
Jesus Christ for myself. I could not depend on my
parents' faith." At the time, Billy Graham was a Presbyterian who had
been baptized as an infant. Later, Billy Graham writes, "For all my
previous religious upbringing and church activity, I believe that that was
the moment I made my real commitment to Jesus Christ." So Hubert spoke the
truth about Billy Graham's conversion. Why do you call Hubert a
liar?
John S. wrote: ... converted over 40.000 Jews and thousands of
hippies and conducted services at a 2000 member
church --
which in fact was his service garage.
jt: The above is from the internet. His
Church in the 1980's was apparently a converted service garage and the
number of Jews and hippies converted under his ministry is quoted on
the internet as from his own mouth. I know
it's the web of a million lies but reports about Hubert's ministry are
remarkably similar and the same kind of thing continues with Jed Smock,
Daniel, Ruben and Spingola even to the point of fist fights. What kind of a
spirit is that?
Did you know Hubert? Are you reporting some first hand
information here, or gossip that you obtained off the internet?
John S. wrote:
A complete impostor, full of vile and
hatred. A reprobate in the truest sense of the word.
John, I am truly shocked that you would say something like this.
Hubert was a spiritual father to me. I guess that does not surprise
you. Maybe you think the same thing about me. Hubert was one of the
most loving men I have ever known. He was anything but full of vile
and hatred. Not even his enemies ever characterized him like
this. He was beat up hundreds of times for preaching Christ, shot,
stabbed, you name it. Hubert was arrested 100 times for preaching
Christ and never convicted of a crime. He always turned the other
cheek and loved his neighbor. Through a broken jaw, he
would tell
his attackers that Jesus loved them and he did too. There were many
men who were converted through Hubert's unquenched love for them, and they
are preaching the gospel today.
jt: I suppose I should ask Jim Ellsman - do you
know if Hubert ever had a meeting with the Pope? I saw that reported also
and have to wonder about it. It seems a bit out of character, but then
if he studied under a Rabbi and was into so much legalism - who knows it may
be so.
