Dave,

And who defined "anti-mormon" to mean "anti-mormonsim"? You said the mormons did. That is no different than any other word they have redefined for their own purposes.

Perry

From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:35 -0700

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This is the problem with the dual meanings that mormons assign to words...they don't mean what they used to mean. So, we can talk all day with them about soiritual matters and we think that they are in agreement with us, when really the words mean something different to them. Like the Queen of Hearts said, "When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean!" *

DAVEH: I have chatted with DavidM enough to know what he believes (or should I say doesn't believe) about the pre-mortal existence of our spirits, just as he explained to you in a parallel post today Perry. But I do find it amusing that you continue to criticize Mormons for having dual meanings when you do the same thing with the term *anti-Mormon.*

Charles Perry Locke wrote:

> DAVEH wrote:
> May I presume you believe free agency existed in the pre-mortal existence?

DavidM responded: Yes.


Perry cautioned:

David, be careful here. When a mormon says "pre-mortal existence" I believe they mean a little more than you may know. To the mormon I believe that to say "pre-mortal existence" refers to the existence of jesus, satan, you, me, and all other humans in a pre-mortal spiritual state as spiritual siblings, whereas, I believe that you may think of the premortal state as being prior to the time Adam was created.

Essentially, you just agreed with the sly ol' mormon boy that prior to your being born into a body (pre-mortal state), you believe you had free agency, along with satan, jesus, and all of your myriad spiritual siblings. Is that what you believe?
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This is the problem with the dual meanings that mormons assign to words...they don't mean what they used to mean. So, we can talk all day with them about soiritual matters and we think that they are in agreement with us, when really the words mean something different to them. Like the Queen of Hearts said, "When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean!" *

Perry


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