Dave,
Here is the Google definition you sent.
"Anti-Mormonism is an overt opposition to Mormonism, often specifically
to Mormonism's largest and most prominent sect, The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints ("LDS Church"; see also Mormon). Anti-Mormon activities
range from reasoned arguments (often references to Archeology or the Bible)
to scathing expos s and public protests"
Read the first sentence. This is what I have been saying all along.
"Anti-Mormonism is an overt opposition to Mormonism".
"Anti-mormon" is a misnomer when applied to me. Now, if I was against, or
hated, or wished ill upon MORMONS, then I would consider myself anti-mormon,
but I am not, and I do not have to accept that label if it does not appliy
to me.
Example: Do you agree with the homosexual lifestyle? That it is wholesome
and acceptable? If not, you may be a HOMOPHOBE! Do you fear homosexuality?
Probably not, even though you may not agree with the lifestyle. A Phobia ia
an irrational fear of something, in this case homosexuals. You see, it is a
misnomer. It's purpose is to cast those that disagree with that lifestyle
into a castigated group. I do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, but I
am not a homophobe any more than I am an anti-mormon. I am anti-mormonism,
not anti-mormon.
Do you understand the difference? Do you use the word "homophobe" to
label those who do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle? Are you a
homophobe? Don't accept labels that mis-represent your beliefs, David.
You can continue to call me anti-mormon if you wish, but you are labeling
me incorrectly when you do so. If you do so, I will know it is intentionally
to antagonize me with a lebel that does not apply. But, if you want to say I
am anti-mormonism, then you will be accurate. What is it to you to put 3
letters at the end to make it "ism"? Is is the difference between trying to
antagonize the sutuation v. being accurate. You choose.
And yes, you did tell me that mormons coined the term "anti-mormon" for
those that are against mormonism. That is no different than the homosexuals
coining the term "homophobe" to describe those that disagree with their
lifestyle. It's purpose is not to be accurate...it is to inflame (so to
speak).
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:32:34 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
And who defined "anti-mormon" to mean "anti-mormonsim"? You said the
mormons did.
DAVEH: I did??? Are you sure about that, Perry? I don't recall saying
such, but it is pretty synonymous, IMO. Have you ever googled *DEFINE
ANTI-MORMON*?
<http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3AAnti-Mormon&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&biw=>
That is no different than any other word they have redefined for their own
purposes.
DAVEH: From the google definition, it appears you are the one trying to
redefine it, Perry. Why does it bother you that as an anti-Mormonism, you
also meet the definition of anti-Mormon???
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:35 -0700
*
This is the problem with the dual meanings that mormons assign to
words...they don't mean what they used to mean. So, we can talk all day
with them about soiritual matters and we think that they are in agreement
with us, when really the words mean something different to them. Like the
Queen of Hearts said, "When I use a word it means exactly what I want it
to mean!" *
DAVEH: I have chatted with DavidM enough to know what he believes (or
should I say doesn't believe) about the pre-mortal existence of our
spirits, just as he explained to you in a parallel post today Perry.
But I do find it amusing that you continue to criticize Mormons for
having dual meanings when you do the same thing with the term
*anti-Mormon.*
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> DAVEH wrote:
> May I presume you believe free agency existed in the pre-mortal
existence?
DavidM responded: Yes.
Perry cautioned:
David, be careful here. When a mormon says "pre-mortal existence" I
believe they mean a little more than you may know. To the mormon I
believe that to say "pre-mortal existence" refers to the existence of
jesus, satan, you, me, and all other humans in a pre-mortal spiritual
state as spiritual siblings, whereas, I believe that you may think of
the premortal state as being prior to the time Adam was created.
Essentially, you just agreed with the sly ol' mormon boy that prior to
your being born into a body (pre-mortal state), you believe you had free
agency, along with satan, jesus, and all of your myriad spiritual
siblings. Is that what you believe?
*
This is the problem with the dual meanings that mormons assign to
words...they don't mean what they used to mean. So, we can talk all day
with them about soiritual matters and we think that they are in
agreement with us, when really the words mean something different to
them. Like the Queen of Hearts said, "When I use a word it means exactly
what I want it to mean!" *
Perry
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