I don't think Velocity has reached EOL just yet - there has recently
been quite a bit of discussion on the Velocity dev list regarding
recommencing active development and integrating several user patches.

BUT, I know that if Turbine DID support other template dialects, I would
probably at least give FreeMarker a try, since it has some nice features
that Velocity doesn't, like the including of templates in a location
other than the template base directory, the compress directive, etc
(from a quick look at the manual).  If I discovered I liked Velocity
better after spending some time with fm, I would switch back.  It's the
fact that Turbine doesn't support fm and other template dialects that
prohibits me from trying alternative solutions.

If it's not a huge headache, I vote for the proxied Context as well.  If
the api was similar enough to the VelocityContext currently used,
converting screens and actions could just be a matter of changing the
import statements, and that could be done with a quick search & replace
on the source files and a recompile.

-Tyler Burd

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Eade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:24 PM
To: Turbine Users List
Subject: Re: Decimal Number support


At the end of the day, if Velocity has reached EOL then we will at some
stage have to consider a new way forward.  If FM is being actively
developed and provides a good migration path then it is a likely
candidate for consideration.

Nobody seemed to express any concerns when WM, FM and Jython support was
removed, but at that point in time Velocity was still being actively
developed (and as Jeffrey points out Turbines support for all of the
others was not).  If I was new to Turbine today I think I would be
questioning the logic of using Velocity for my templates, but then again
if there was no support for anything else then I wouldn't really have a
choice would I :-)  If FM was supported and there was at least a sample
of app that used it then I would probably consider it.  The biggest push
to use something other than Velocity would be if the Turbine site said
something like "Velocity is really great, but no longer being
maintained, we recommend you use ??? instead".

As a general direction I think it would be great if we at
least look at relaxing the coupling between turbine and velocity such
that it would be easier to hook some other template service in should
someone have the desire and cycles to put it together.

Cheers,

Scott

-- 
Scott Eade
Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd. http://www.backstagetech.com.au





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