Hi,

Nope I hadn't done it yet, I wanted to get a go ahead 1st :)
I'll create them now but won't get a chance to put much / any content in b4
tomorrow... so feel free to pick a page and start work on it... we can then
all contribute drafts and then use the commenting system in the wiki tro
refine it later...

Everyone ok with this ?

Start page is http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/User+Guide

Cheers,
Dan



On 08/02/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2/8/07, Shelita Overton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I think this is a great start. I think it is safe to go ahead and create
> this structure.  This will definitely help to avoid
duplication.  Thanks!
>
>
> On 2/8/07, Dan Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shelita,
> >
> > I'd like to partner with you on writing some documentation and had
also
> > started a page on the wiki @
> >
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Building+SCA+for+Javawhich

> > has some overlap with Raymonds more recent addition.
> >
> > How about we break the getting starting down into a number of smaller
> > pages
> > so we can work on them more easily. I propose:
> >
> > User Guide
> >    + Getting Tuscnay's Java SCA
> >            + Choosing between a package runtime and building your own
> >            + Downloading and installing a release
> >            + (use the the approach I'm experimenting with @
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg13707.html
)
> >            + Setting up a build environment
> >            + Choosing a source / understanding the source tree
> >            + Building - which bits to build
> >                  + Debugging build issues
> >                  + Build tips (eg. use of mvn -fn to continue building
> > despite test case failures)
> >    + Setting up an "SCA Developer" environment (cover both command
line
> > and
> > IDEs (Eclipse and others)) suitable for a user of Tuscany (as opposed
to
> a
> > developer of)
> >    + Developing a simple SCA composite containing a single component
> >            + Initial project setup (is there an alternative to maven
?)
> >            + Developing a simple component
> >            + Unit testing and debugging a component
> >    + Composing components into composites
> >            + Exposing the composite to the outside world (define the
> > service binding)
> >                    + Web Services, JMS etc
> >            + Resolving dependencies not contained in the composite
> > (defining the reference bindings)
> >                    + Web Services, JMS - others ?
> >            + Reusing components in composites
> >    + Deploying to server runtime (eg. tomcat & geronimo ?)
> >    ( + Managing / monitor / changing components & composites )
> >    ...
> >
> > I think it might also bring up some interesting things to consider...
> for
> > example, "How can I reuse components in a composite without copying it

> > from
> > another project ?"
> >
> > If folks agree with this structure (or similar) then I'll go ahead and
> > create it - I think it would be a good idea to agree some structure
> > upfront
> > to avoid duplication (which seems likely unless we have one author).
> >
> > WDYT ?
> > Dan
> >
> > On 07/02/07, Raymond Feng < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just added a draft @
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Getting+Started.
We
> > > might
> > > be able to use it as a starting point and add more meat into it to
> help
> > > new
> > > users understand the basic concepts, steps and tools to develop a
> simple
> > > SCA
> > > application with Tuscany.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Raymond
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "haleh mahbod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: < tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Suggestions for Tuscany SCA documenation?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Shelita,
> > > > Welcome to Tuscany. We definitly need help with documentation :)
> > > >
> > > > A starting point might be a user giude on  how to develop a simple
> SCA
> > > > application. This document can then incrementally grow to  cover
> more
> > > > advanced topics.
> > > >
> > > > Another project might be to work on an SCA user doc with examples.
> > This
> > > > would provide a quick reference to SCA rather than requiring
people
> to
> > > > read
> > > > all the specifications.
> > > >
> > > > I would be happy to join you in this effort. We can start using
> > > Confluence
> > > > Wiki to work on the documents.
> > > >
> > > > Does the 'user guide' sound like a good starting point for you?
> > > >
> > > > What do others think?
> > > >
> > > > Haleh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/7/07, Rick Rineholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> If your totally new to SCA/Tuscany having a fresh pair of eyes
> > looking
> > > >> at first understanding SCA, looking at our website how easy it is

> to
> > > >> find resources, how well those were, then moving on to the
samples
> in
> > > M2
> > > >> and then try and understand how contribute to Tuscany itself and
> > along
> > > >> the way provide feedback and updates can be always beneficial.  I
> > think
> > > >> that's ground anyone first starting out would initially have to
> cover
> > > to
> > > >> some degree or another.
> > > >> If your not new, you'll need to give some background and where
your
> > > >> interests are in general.
> > > >> .
> > > >> Shelita Overton wrote:
> > > >> > Hi I would like to help with creating some documenation for
> Tuscany
> > > >> > SCA...
> > > >> > Does anyone have any suggestions on what should be covered
first?
> > > >> > Priority?
> > > >> > Any content that could be used as a starting point?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ~Shelita Overton
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Hi Dan

Have you already created this? If so I'll go edit ti myself, If not I
suggest we have a section

"Running the samples"


coming after the first section which describes how to get the code. If I
remember correctly there is some automation of this already in place  but
it
would be good to have some descriptive text and suggestions about which
ones
to try first and also the kind of things that might go wrong.

Simon

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