I’m with Kevin on the state of US TV news. If I think about how the news stations are going to cover the invasion I know they are going to talk about how it’s going to affect the upcoming US elections. I lived in Israel for years and I remember cable TV came with CNN International. If something big happened locally and I turned on CNN to see their coverage, it was about how the event would affect Americans or US foreign policy.
I followed the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions closely in both the newspapers and on TV. From day to day there wasn’t a whole lot new to cover and in retrospect they missed the story in a big way. I don’t trust them to get this story right. > On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You make my point for me. Experts are now available online without a network > filter. Survivor and victim accounts are also available. If I’m going to try > to stomach Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow, they need to offer something I can’t > get elsewhere. > > Like you, I’ve turned to TV during Breaking News throughout my life, too. But > now I not only don’t miss it, but feel I’m better informed by virtue of not > watching it. > >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 6:04 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> While there is something to your critique, I think it is overly harsh. I >> have seen several recognized experts on both Russia and Ukraine interviewed >> many times, providing both general context but also targeted context and >> analysis if minute by minute events. They have interviewed Ukrainians >> getting out, and those staying. They have video, and interviews, with >> officials from surrounding nations, NATO, and the EU. Yes, I have seen much >> of this online as well, but television news has, during my lifetime, been an >> import supplement to print journalism, and institutional, legacy media are >> an essential counterweight to much of the freelance reporting one sees on >> Social Media, which has less concern with its reputation and credibility. >> >> I’m not saying we would be blind without linear television news, but there >> would be a hole. >> >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 5:54 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 1:47 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote >>> . >>>> . >>>> >>>> What would happen if there were no more “linear” television outlets on >>>> stories like these? I read the papers often during the day, and the AP, >>>> and Twitter, but there would be a huge hole without television news >>>> organizations with ongoing assets in the field. Will Amazon or Hulu be >>>> doing that down the road? I guess I will have to get CNN+ >>> >>> Really? A huge hole? What context are TV news providing? What, other than >>> the instantaneous visuals of explosions, are they contributing to the >>> story? I’m unaware of any experts on Ukraine employed by CNN or MSNBC… they >>> might exist, but I can’t imagine they prepared for this eventuality, even >>> though Putin has been preparing for this for more than a decade so they had >>> plenty of time to develop sources and establish solid connections to the >>> region. >>> >>> I haven’t watched any TV coverage, and I don’t feel I’m missing out. I have >>> friends in the area, so I can see any immediate events on social media. For >>> context there are stories from AP and BBC. Both NPR and MarketPlace have >>> done a decent job explaining the impact of war in the region on US economy >>> and life. I fail to see any advantage in whatever CNN or MSNBC might be >>> bloviating about. >>> >>> I’m taking this war personally. I was in Kazakhstan 20 years ago when Putin >>> murdered a school full of men, women, and children in Beslan. And I watched >>> when he attacked Crimea. And Georgia. He’s patient and methodical, and the >>> so called international community has let him get away with this crap over >>> and over again. The US isn’t a moral leader anymore, and we’re on the cusp >>> of ceasing to be a superpower, but we could still be acting against Putin >>> with more than economic sanctions. As could a dozen other nations. >>> >>> Putin won’t stop until he’s forcibly removed from office or assassinated. >>> That’s the reality. Even if he’s convinced to stop attacking Ukraine, he >>> will shift targets or wait until we are distracted and strike again. The TV >>> news media is too dumbed down and too political to cover this situation >>> with any degree of quality or depth. >>> >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK7D6hT7SF-BOS%3DS233RxsL1BNG4OfO75UA1YqqpXS7dQ%40mail.gmail.com. >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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