Hi Bruce, Do you really want the "full" content or do you want the answer? I don't disagree about Ray W's postings however it stops all the out of office messages along with a large number of tit for tat postings.
If the zealots wish to continue, they can do it in private. The list manager used by other lists has a reply-to of the person posting the message. Personally, I'm a bit sick of the arguments. Some folks think it is funny but it ties up an inordinate amount of bandwidth. Your point about the immediate receivers is not really valid. Why does everybodys reply have to go to everybody on the list? Multiply the answers this morning by the number of subscribers times the length of each message and the bandwidth consumed becomes quite large. I'm not trying to control the delay, just redirect the replies to where they should go ie. the original message poster. It is then up to he/she to compose a reasonable summary and post this to the list. We then only have 2 messages to the list, the question and the answer. I don't disagree with the INFOCUS indexing however the price is right and I haven't seen any offers of anything better. It is using another sites donated bandwidth (AFAIK). I'm sure gmane or something else also mirrors the list. Regards David Logan Database Administrator HP Managed Services 148 Frome Street, Adelaide 5000 Australia +61 8 8408 4273 - Work +61 417 268 665 - Mobile +61 8 8408 4259 - Fax -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Nichol Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] The list format and usefulness Goo'day, David, At 11:40 21/12/04 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >After becoming a little frustrated of seeing and reading the same old >stuff, day in and day out, and IMHO the list not having the same useful >content as previously, I have number of suggestions. > >With a number of other groups, a different format is used, a question is >asked, replies are sent directly to the person asking the question and >this person then summarises for the groups benefit. I'm not too certain about this... Are you *really* sure the *full* content will come back to the list in general? Will *everybody* quote Ray Wurlod in full? Many's the tid-bit found in Ray's responses...... <grin> >This has couple of immediate advantages : > >1) stops arguments on the relative benefits of a GOTO over a LOOP for >the 53rd time. (30 replies on the last one). I'm not too sure how you (a) stop the "troublemakers" mentioning it, or (b) stop the anti-GOTO zealots for throwing their hats in the ring...... but zealots being zealots, they all have to respond...... We all know, even those newly-list-joined, about the ongoing stirring about GOTO's.... and the zealots' responses..... >2) stops multiple answers clogging bandwidth of everybody on the list. >eg. being told how to MAT var = '' 9 times. OK, we've had an enormous result to MAT var = '' this morning, but is that simply because it was an "easy" one? Many list users get their mail delivered to their desk immediately. Others have to "go out" to get it periodically from whereever. The "immediate" receivers really have no way of knowing if, as yet, anybody else has responded. I was in the process of answering this very question myself this morning - there being no apparent answers provided at that point, but a phone call disrupted the response, and by the time I got back to it about 15 to 20 minutes later, there were an easy half-dozen responses. So, I cancelled my response. I'm not too sure how you can control the time delay..... An "list administrator" available 24/7 is probably the only way..... Charles? >People need to also have a little more discipline and perhaps utilise >the community list when appropriate. I choose not to subscribe so am not >aware if it gets much of a hammering but perhaps it could do with a >little more. This format provides that discipline. > >I am aware there useful posts and the responses can be very helpful but >we could also promote the use and searching of the archives prior to >posting. Have you *really* tried finding something/anything on infocus? Most times, to me, the indexing is a bit "off" ..... > This would trim down a number of the duplicate posts. > >I feel these simple measures would cut down considerably on duplicate >and unnecessary traffic. > >Donning asbestos underpants now. > >Regards > >David Logan >Database Administrator >HP Managed Services >148 Frome Street, >Adelaide 5000 >Australia > >+61 8 8408 4273 - Work >+61 417 268 665 - Mobile >+61 8 8408 4259 - Fax >------- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 20/12/04 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 20/12/04 Regards, Bruce Nichol Talon Computer Services ALBURY NSW 2640 Australia http://www.taloncs.com.au Tel: +61 (0)411149636 Fax: +61 (0)260232119 If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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