There are people who work on/drive cars much older than that. Yes, they
still work, are functional and can sometimes look amazing. When it comes
to utility though, they rarely match the total feature set available on
the newer cars. Side & Passenger Airbags, smoother rides, 5 star safety
ratings, air conditioning...

Point being, just because something is old and still in use, doesn't
mean it is the best solution either technically or productively wise. It
can have its place, but not every place. Unless of course they continue
to evolve it, not just keep it running.

I love MV databases and the unique opportunities it presents. It also
has its issues that have been solved for a long time in 'the newest
fashion fad' for which the MV databases desperately need to catch up
with. Well, that is if they really want to increase the
development/market share of the product, as opposed to merely
'supporting' current ISV solutions just enough to stop people absolutely
needing to migrate away.

* If I had anything remotely as useful/polished as Visual Studio to
develop my life would be bliss.
**  Development toolset in general is severely lacking
* Licence model is frustration+ if you stray away from Telnet sessions
** It's so open to interpretation its ridiculous

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 2:09 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

There are people on this list that have been working with this database
for 40 years or more, can you say that about the products you are so
hyped up on. This database/environment/platform has outlived all other
databases. It has outlived it's creators. It survives because it does
what it is supposed to do. It was created to live and evolve. Long after
the databases that you are extolling the virtues of have biten the dust
it will continue. What you and many other people see is the glitz and
glamor the newest fashion fad while the Plain Jane over in the corner
does it's job. All hail Plain Jane.

Jerry

On 2/2/2011 12:58 PM, phil walker wrote:
> Comments in line.
>
> There are know right or wrong answers here but I would rather not have

> to rely completely on one technology platform, even Microsoft ...or 
> apple ;-) That was also a joke...
>
> So those of you who do not change or cannot get Rocket to change, good

> luck with your future business.
>
> ...probably enough has been said down this path...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- 
>> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 7:31 a.m.
>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>> Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
>>
>> Let's not forget here that the business user wants a solution.
> [phil walker] That's right.
>>
>> If you can come in, with their solution, and no one else can, and
> you're a
>> good salesperson, and the price is right, you get the signature most
> of the
>> time.
> [phil walker] Why not get it all of the time.
>>
>> The reason products like Shims took off is because there was 
>> literally
> no
>> competition in the marketplace they were addressing (small
> manufacturing
>> and distribution companies), and what competition there was, was five
> times
>> the price.  That was a complete solution.
>>
>> Companies who *already* have an infrastructure and personnel
> investment
>> in certain technologies, of course will desire to adhere to those.
> But that is
>> not a show stopper, just a big boulder in the path.
> [phil walker] Rightly or wrongly it is a fairly big boulder. So why 
> not pick your battles.
>> If you can show how much more fabulous your business solution is, 
>> than
> the last guys, you can get
>> companies to switch from PCs to Macs....  Ok that's a joke.
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