Be careful what you wish for. I didn't start out as a programmer, my
degree is in Electronics Engineering, my early career was designing,
building, and repairing many of the early computer systems. As time went
on I had to change what I was doing because with throw away computer
parts you no longer need a person that can tell you what is inside of
the box all you need is someone that can replace it. The same thing is
happening in the software business. With all of the new point and click
tools you will eventually no longer need someone that can actually read
code. Why do you think all of the software jobs are being outsourced. A
person that needs to read code is no longer needed. As soon as they can
figure out how to make the tools build logic into it, you're gone. It's
not that far in the future. Now if you are one of the people that could
never read the code or make heads or tails of business logic I can see
why you would want the stuff that does it for you, but I don't think you
are.
Jerry
On 2/2/2011 9:42 PM, Dan McGrath wrote:
There are people who work on/drive cars much older than that. Yes, they
still work, are functional and can sometimes look amazing. When it comes
to utility though, they rarely match the total feature set available on
the newer cars. Side& Passenger Airbags, smoother rides, 5 star safety
ratings, air conditioning...
Point being, just because something is old and still in use, doesn't
mean it is the best solution either technically or productively wise. It
can have its place, but not every place. Unless of course they continue
to evolve it, not just keep it running.
I love MV databases and the unique opportunities it presents. It also
has its issues that have been solved for a long time in 'the newest
fashion fad' for which the MV databases desperately need to catch up
with. Well, that is if they really want to increase the
development/market share of the product, as opposed to merely
'supporting' current ISV solutions just enough to stop people absolutely
needing to migrate away.
* If I had anything remotely as useful/polished as Visual Studio to
develop my life would be bliss.
** Development toolset in general is severely lacking
* Licence model is frustration+ if you stray away from Telnet sessions
** It's so open to interpretation its ridiculous
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
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There are people on this list that have been working with this database
for 40 years or more, can you say that about the products you are so
hyped up on. This database/environment/platform has outlived all other
databases. It has outlived it's creators. It survives because it does
what it is supposed to do. It was created to live and evolve. Long after
the databases that you are extolling the virtues of have biten the dust
it will continue. What you and many other people see is the glitz and
glamor the newest fashion fad while the Plain Jane over in the corner
does it's job. All hail Plain Jane.
Jerry
On 2/2/2011 12:58 PM, phil walker wrote:
Comments in line.
There are know right or wrong answers here but I would rather not have
to rely completely on one technology platform, even Microsoft ...or
apple ;-) That was also a joke...
So those of you who do not change or cannot get Rocket to change, good
luck with your future business.
...probably enough has been said down this path...
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Let's not forget here that the business user wants a solution.
[phil walker] That's right.
If you can come in, with their solution, and no one else can, and
you're a
good salesperson, and the price is right, you get the signature most
of the
time.
[phil walker] Why not get it all of the time.
The reason products like Shims took off is because there was
literally
no
competition in the marketplace they were addressing (small
manufacturing
and distribution companies), and what competition there was, was five
times
the price. That was a complete solution.
Companies who *already* have an infrastructure and personnel
investment
in certain technologies, of course will desire to adhere to those.
But that is
not a show stopper, just a big boulder in the path.
[phil walker] Rightly or wrongly it is a fairly big boulder. So why
not pick your battles.
If you can show how much more fabulous your business solution is,
than
the last guys, you can get
companies to switch from PCs to Macs.... Ok that's a joke.
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