On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
> > From: Bill Haskett > > I wonder if this implies that those who U2 are all > > database "gurus"? :-) > > I get the humor but... > I need to create a distributed cloud-based MV environment, > obviously smaller than Facebook but using the same concept of > "shards" for distributed storage and computing. So far most of > the Pick people I talk to have no idea what I'm talking about let > alone how to implement it with MV. Not all non-Pick people know this either, but in both cases, some do. > We're not gurus if we don't > speak the same language as the rest of the world. > Not all of us need to speak all of the same language, but, yes, we do need to have MV folks who speak the language. I have not found that to be a big problem to date (I work with a different vendor now, but I'm guessing there are folks working for U2 who are up to date on this too). > > As to "old SQL", there is a revolution going on out there and I'm > wondering if other MV people have seen this: Look at the data > storage for Android, Google App Engine, AmazonDB, etc. All of > these platforms and others are using name/value pairs with some > relational functionality, but they're not using SQL. Once again > we're missing a whole new generation of data hungry applications. > Yes, many of us have been suggestion (for more than a year and a half at least) that we should position ourselves (MV) to jump under this larger umbrella NoSQL (Not only SQL or yes-no-sql or in some cases No SQL). The MV products are some of the only ones in this arena that are proven. > > While there are still new methods of data storage and retrieval > being created all the time, the MV market needs to define a > consistent web service / REST API for data access and rule > execution, accessible from any client. Any clues on how to get any standard that all MV vendors would deploy? I'm thinking this would require third-party software and, even then, the vendors might have better solutions for anyone not needing a cross-MV-platform solution (most users of MV systems do not require such). > (That's easy, I have done > this many times for various projects and for most MV platforms.) > >From there, professionals in this community can position as > experts to provide applications, DBMS support services, rules in > BASIC, hosting, and mentoring for a new generation of people who > might like to use BASIC for rules rather than Java, Ruby, Go, or > whatever else they're just starting to learn. > > Yeah... as if... > Yeah, I don't see it going that route. I do think we could possibly pop up a bit more into the NoSQL playground as an industry. The name is a tad bit unfortunate, but the idea is a good one. --dawn > > Tony Gravagno > Nebula Research and Development > TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com > remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog > Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! > http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno > > > > > From:Symeon Breen > > > Some on here will be interested in this. I esp like Gigaom's > quote > > > > "old SQL (as he calls it) is good for nothing" and > > needs to be "sent to the home for retired software." > > After all, he explained, SQL was created decades ago > > before the web, mobile devices and sensors forever > > changed how and how often databases are accessed. > > > > > <http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/facebook-needs-major-rewrite-w > arns-database-guru-33864> > > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
