I respectfully disagree - through the years the few times I've been royally screwed, it's always by a closed-source vendor. I have never made a major commitment to an open-source tool and been burned. Debian, Eclipse, Tomcat, Apache and Postgres have been good to me for a long time. Not saying that open-source lasts forever, but when something does get orphaned, I have more options.
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2009/10/open-source-makes-big-gains-at-the-london-stock-exchange/index.htm I think the LSE found a way to justify open-source to their board and regulators... -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting article Hi Rob Open source has its advantages, but there is the reverse side. I need to know that it has ongoing support if I commit a package on it, I have seen too many people get into trouble when an open source application is no longer supported. Organisations have not been able to apply security patches because their free application cannot support the security patch. There is also the question of security, is open source easier to hack, is it easier to put in back doors. My clients want to know what happens if I get hit by the proverbial bus, I need to justify continuity to them and the open source environment does not provide that continuity. I am not going to be able to put an application into the London Stock exchange based on open source, they could not justify to their board, risk managers and regulators. The cost of supporting open source is sometimes greater than paid for applications. The question to ensure, does U2 provide a value add to my development. Regards David Jordan -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:41 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting article David, You're correct that U2 users need to be vocal about what they want, but Rocket has to be proactive, too. Surely they have a few analysts on staff that can read Techmeme or attend a few conferences and see for themselves where developers are headed. It's probably not wise to only listen to *current *U2 users anyway. I started to make a list in my head of what I'd ask Rocket for, but then I stopped because everything I'd ask for I can get* *elsewhere...for free...right now. If I were starting a brand new project today, I'd be hard pressed to find a single reason to pick a U2 database over a free, open-source alternative like MongoDB, PostgreSQL, or MySQL which have drivers for almost every language, heaps of documentation and troubleshooting resources online, fast release cycles, and great (free) developer tools. Can anyone else think of one? -Rob The biggest thing for me is accessibility from other languages, because the On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David Jordan <da...@dacono.com.au> wrote: > Rob your comments are not wrong. However U2 management want to go > where they think the market is. As users we don't tell them anything > and then complain that they are not mind readers and are not heading in the > direction > we want to go. As a user group, we give users a voice to be able to set > direction. Of course there are a million one views about the future, but we > can build a business case based on the wishes of the majority. I have sat > down with Rocket and explained how Microsoft Azure could provide a > market opportunity and how U2 could work in this environment and I am > working with them to look at its feasibility. Others are looking at > REST and a range of other APIs. Rocket is not so much ignoring us > rather we as users are not talking to Rocket constructively. > > What is important is to turn this discussion into something constructive. > If Rocket asked you what you want, what would you say. > > David Jordan > VP U2UG > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ----------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
