Just curious as to (still) why there are no plans to make Ubiquity available
on FF addons site - addons.mozilla.org (even if as a experimental addon)?

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Gary Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Atul - for me, that wiki page sums up the proposals very well!
>  Sufficiently detailed to understand what motivates each goal, a good range
> of targets, without sounding like a wishy-washy 'mission statement'.
> If I think of more, I will certainly throw them on there for discussion.
>
>
> Regards,
> Gary
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Atul Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> It's clear that there's a lot of really awesome directions Ubiquity can
>> go, but it looks like we need to focus in on what particular directions we
>> want to take it over the next two months.  As Aza has proposed, we can
>> innovate the user interface and mechanisms for allowing the community to
>> contribute to UI innovation; we could also work on the herd, like fern
>> suggested; and Gary makes a very good argument for stabilizing our current
>> feature set.
>>
>> I've created a work-in-progress 0.2 roadmap on the wiki here:
>>
>>   https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity/0.2_Roadmap_Proposals
>>
>> I've tried adding what people have mentioned here so far.  If you guys
>> don't mind, could you please take  a look at it and add anything that you
>> feel is necessary?  Once we've got all our ideas down, we can start figuring
>> out how to pare things down based on Ubiquity's vision.  Please also feel
>> free to justify your rationale for features that you're particularly
>> interested in.
>>
>> - Atul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Abimanyu Raja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> The reason it's called The Herd: http://www.toolness.com/wp/?p=144
>>>
>>> 2008/11/6 indolering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can we call it something with better connotations than "The Herd?"
>>>>
>>>> I mean, the democrats lost, badly, for the past 8 years because they
>>>> failed to correctly frame (http://tiny.cc/frame448) their viewpoints
>>>> and evoke the right emotions, until Barak got them all excited with
>>>> his rhetoric.
>>>>
>>>> It's hard to get excited about being a cow : (
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and now we should get back on topic : )
>>>> -Zak
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 4, 6:39 am, "Abimanyu Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Haha..yes. We should do that.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2008/11/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >
>>>> > > Why not get Ubiquity on addons.mozilla.com in the first place?
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Abimanyu Raja <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >> Yep, the social aspects like on addons.mozilla.com should also be
>>>> part of
>>>> > >> The Herd, imo.
>>>> >
>>>> > >> I agree with Gary. That's why I wanted to include improving
>>>> performance as
>>>> > >> a major goal. Specifically, the tickets he mentioned, adding back
>>>> old
>>>> > >> features and replacing the annotation service. Regarding planning
>>>> for 0.2, I
>>>> > >> think it's just about setting the long term goals. In the end, they
>>>> have to
>>>> > >> be broken to smaller milestones as Aza said. So, I think that
>>>> performance
>>>> > >> issues, a goal for 0.2, should probably be the focus for 0.1.4
>>>> (assuming
>>>> > >> 0.1.3 is focused on skinning). Or we should swap the focuses. 0.1.3
>>>> should
>>>> > >> be for performance issues. I would really like the context menu and
>>>> > >> noun-first suggestions back. And of course, we should really try
>>>> not to
>>>> > >> break people's current behavior (esp. noun-first suggestions).
>>>> >
>>>> > >> I feel like we need to delegate work (at least for a few key
>>>> issues) to
>>>> > >> make faster progress.
>>>> >
>>>> > >> - Abi
>>>> >
>>>> > >> 2008/11/4 Gary Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >
>>>> > >> Hi guys,
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Whilst some of the goals for 0.2 sound fun, in my opinion there
>>>> are some
>>>> > >>> fundamentals that perhaps should be addressed beforehand.  For
>>>> example,
>>>> > >>> reintroducing functionality that was lost with 0.1.2 (e.g. tickets
>>>> #358,
>>>> > >>> #359 & #394 are some I raised about this :-), stabilising the
>>>> codebase, and
>>>> > >>> addressing performance. Something else that really needs
>>>> addressing is the
>>>> > >>> trust-network and the way commands are subscribed to. I've read a
>>>> few blog
>>>> > >>> posts, and received a couple of emails, saying that the major
>>>> factor that is
>>>> > >>> stopping people from adopting Ubiquity is the security risk of
>>>> subscribing
>>>> > >>> to new commands.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Perhaps these are planned for a prior release, but considering
>>>> 0.1.2 was
>>>> > >>> about 6 weeks late, and 0.1.3 still has 28 active tickets,
>>>> planning 0.2 for
>>>> > >>> the end of 2008 seems a little over-ambitious. I don't want to
>>>> rain on the
>>>> > >>> parade - I love hacking away at new stuff with the best of them -
>>>> but
>>>> > >>> without some core stability I think the user base will lose
>>>> interest and
>>>> > >>> we'll be left with an interesting toy for a handful of people, but
>>>> no
>>>> > >>> wide-spread adoption.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Of course this is only my take on things, and perhaps not seeing
>>>> the
>>>> > >>> bigger picture :-)  I hope these comments are taken in a positive
>>>> way.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Cheers
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Gary
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Fernando Takai <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > >>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>> Yes, but herd needs to be improved. For example, we need to add
>>>> social
>>>> > >>>> features like rating, commenting -- and we need to have a place
>>>> to host
>>>> > >>>> commands, like gist, but ours.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Dean Landolt <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Fernando Takai <
>>>> > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>>> Ubiquity planet is like an addon.firefox.com for commands (if
>>>> im not
>>>> > >>>>>> mistaken).
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>> Wouldn't that be the Herd?
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>> Typically planets are just aggregators for specific communities
>>>> of
>>>> > >>>>> interest [1] -- so of people that often blog about Ubiquity,
>>>> it's just one
>>>> > >>>>> central place that pulls in those posts. Unless you mean
>>>> something else,
>>>> > >>>>> Aza?
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>> [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(software)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_%28software%29>
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_%28software%29>
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>> Fernando "Takai"
>>>> > >>>>http://flickr.com/photos/supeertakai
>>>> > >>>>http://fernandotakai.wordpress.com
>>>> > >>>>http://fernandotakai.jaiku.com
>>>> >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Mayuresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


-- 
Mayuresh

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