We are in central Pennsylvania... every AP we've ever taken off a tower
has green corroded Ethernet connections......  we aren't near the
sea.... enough said :)


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
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On 10/27/14, 5:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Hi Clay, Thanks for the explanation... 
> 
> So based on this,  the grease  would only be needed / functional at the
>  'down side' of the cable run, on the radio side it is all behind the cover.
> 
> ------------------------
> 
> I am still having a hard time, visualizing the physical aspect of
> this... let's say the cable jacket has a defect, and water is seeping
> into it... the water will end up in the connector, before the grease and
> still short out the cable
> 
> ------------------------
> 
> Drip loops are supposed to protect you on the downward side from such
> cable shorting....
> 
> I can see the use / benefit of the grease in near salt water or marine
> applications, but am having a hard time physically imagining how in a
> normal WISP deployment it is actually creating some sort of protection.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     *From: *"Clay Stewart" <cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>
>     *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>     *Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 3:40:04 PM
>     *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> 
>     Faisal, the grease keeps moisture out, completely, which is why car
>     wire connectors have it. A single bird peck or wire pull scrape will
>     allow water to transverse a wire for it's entire length... Ending up
>     in cat5 end or even a POE or Surge.
> 
>     On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net
>     <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>         >>Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this could be 
> more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. Suggest electrolytic grease... 
> Advice I need to listen too myself!
> 
>         I am going to assume we are talking about Ubiquity Radios, and
>         we are talking about the ends that are going into the radio....
> 
>         Since I am a visual learner, can anyone explain to me HOW is the
>         moisture  getting into the connector ? 
> 
>         In all of the radios, the cable / connector is pretty well
>         covered to stop them from getting wet....and the radios have
>         weep holes to protect against humidity related moisture.
> 
>         (If we are talking about cable/connectors connecting to other
>         stuff, other than radios, then I can  understand potential issues )
> 
>         While I don't have a disagreement over the use of die-electric
>         grease, telco's have been using it for a very long time, they
>         would even use it on in-door connections, I am asking the need
>         for it ?  
> 
>         w
>         Regards,
> 
>         Faisal Imtiaz
>         Snappy Internet & Telecom
>         7266 SW 48 Street
>         Miami, FL 33155
>         Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
>         Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>         supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>             *From: *"Clay Stewart" <cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>             
> <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com');>>
>             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org
>             <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ubnt_users@wispa.org');>>
>             *Sent: *Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:30:27 AM
>             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> 
>             Only time this happened to us was due to moisture in cat5 or
>             cat5 end. Green cable of course in past... But recently had
>             a rocket M2 do this which was a scraped 140' tower tough
>             cable carrier which the moisture traveled all the way down
>             into cat5 end shorting out pins where it entered a surge
>             protection.
> 
>             Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this could
>             be more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. Suggest
>             electrolytic grease... Advice I need to listen too myself!
> 
>             On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Mike Hammett
>             <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
>             
> <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wispaubntus...@ics-il.net');>>
>             wrote:
> 
>                 It came back shortly after I sent that e-mail. Nothing
>                 in the Rocket's log to indicate WTF is going on. 80 days
>                 up time.
> 
> 
> 
>                 -----
>                 Mike Hammett
>                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>                 *From: *"Mike Hammett" <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>                 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>                 *Sent: *Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:51:12 PM
>                 *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> 
>                 Has anyone been seeing odd things happening with UBNT
>                 radios? No bad weather in the area.
> 
>                 I had a NanoBridge earlier this week just stop via
>                 Ethernet (not sure on RF). Replaced the cable and PoE.
>                 Nothing. Replace the radio. Fine. Plug the radio in at
>                 the ground. Fine.
> 
>                 I had a Rocket reset to defaults after "losing" its
>                 Ethernet. When I got up top, the lights were blinking as
>                 if it were in TFTP mode. I got it reprogrammed and it's
>                 been fine since.
> 
>                 I just had another Rocket lose its Ethernet tonight.
>                 I'll see its fate in the AM. I'm attaching a log from
>                 the router's point of view just to show the oddness.
> 
> 
> 
>                 -----
>                 Mike Hammett
>                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
>                 http://www.ics-il.com
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