You got it Chris! Thanks for the feedback. Stay tuned on DFS for AC and beams...
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote: > Issue with Beams have cleared up for us, but the rollout was not without > its problems, all the initial problems were with the 19’s. They work well > enough now minus DFS. > > > > Everything else I get with the AC line. I just can’t bite off on anything > UBNT puts out until DFS is ready. I just don’t have the spectrum to make it > work. I hedged my bets on the Nano Beams getting this and lost on it. > > > > Thanks for your time Ben. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore > *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:30 PM > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability > > > > Inline below... > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > I didn’t think the lite would be available after the full launch of the > real product. No advantages there though as it doesn’t sport any of the > magic other than AC, which isn’t magic at all. > > > > BM: Yes, lite will continue to be available. The advantages are achieved > by splitting the PTP and PTMP functions. Believe me...we definitely don't > want to create a new sku, just to create a new sku and charge you more for > it ;) > > > > You can’t sit here and deny the fact that the Nano Beams had issues > initially. I had to pull all our initially installed ones from the field > due to some serious AP wide degradations that didn’t get resolved till much > later. We have them rolled out now in minimal fashion on newer firmware and > some beta 5.6 > > > > BM: Sorry, not aware of the issues (though admittedly I do not follow the > SW issues as closely). Based on demand for the product and requests for > DFS approvals and lack of chatter regarding issues....are you still > experiencing issues? Can you get them sent to me and will have support > review? > > > > Let’s see, how many other products can I list that had been rushed to > market…. > > > > BM: No question not perfect here...Especially with our announcements. I > think this is getting much better (edge switches shipped at time of > announcement, NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP, New AC antennas, AF-24HD just announced > and first shipment arriving next week, etc...). You can also see that the > AC product line has a TON into it at launch. It also has a number of > networks active using it for many, many months. > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore > *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:49 AM > > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability > > > > With the NanoBeam what is half baked? We have heard great response from > the product worldwide (in each market). Software or hardware issues? What > were you beta testing? > > > > If you want the one rocket, you can always use the lite...This option is > there. However, you won't have the benefits of airPrism. With airPrism > you really need to break out PTP and PTMP to get best performance (and with > AC). > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet and whether It’s > enough to justify upgrading existing stuff. Still deciding even if I want > to move forward with it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a lot of > time and money beta testing a fully released non half assed product. > > > > That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that supported the > full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer. > > > > I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was easier to keep stock > this way for replacements. Now I have to keep track of multiple items and > SKU’s. > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore > *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability > > > > We actually do call out what each are capable of on the data sheet. The > days are not gone of one device doing everything (this still applies with > the majority of the products). However, we have optimized a PTP product > and a PTMP product. Many have asked for this and I think it will be a > welcome change. We are not charging more for this. we are just getting > the most out of PTP and most out of PTMP. > > > > Yes, it will have DFS. I would expect in Q1. The lites are PTP and PTMP. > > > > The products are fully capable. If you are referring to DFS, we release > now because many want to use them now in the bands they are available in > USA and also the rest of the world can use bands available. > > > > You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW features discussed in > our webinar yesterday: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g > > > > This is not half baked. > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the days when one device > could do everything I guess. > > > > Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the products are usable for me. > I have PTP Lites sitting on the shelf since release cause I can’t use them. > > > > Why not wait to launch a fully capable product instead of half assed one. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore > *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:32 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability > > > > I assume you are talking about PTP (with airPrism) and not the lite > version right? The Lite version can do PTP and PTMP. > > > > So, in summary, there are hardware differences for PTP and PTMP with > airPrism that maximize performance for PTP and PTMP. There are also > software enhancements for PTP only version (TDMA framing, Long distance > mode, etc...). > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Fadgen <tfad...@coastinet.com> wrote: > > I guess I f..... up with my assumption since I just ordered PTP that I do > not need. I guess I have to remember my old motto from the early '80's, > "Trail Blazers sometimes get arrows in their backs" or "bleeding edge > technology is called BLEEDING for a reason" > > > > Tom Fadgen > > coastinet.com > > > > On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 8:55 am, Ben Moore wrote: > > The PTP version will always be just PTP (at least as it currently > stands). They have different hardware than the PTMP version (not yet > announced). We are planning to start shipping PTMP AirPrism version this > month to distributors. > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fadgen <tfad...@coastinet.com> wrote: > > I am hoping just like the non-prizm 5ac-lite's which originally came out > as PTP only, a firmware release will open up PTMP. > > > > Tom Fadgen > > coastinet.com > > > > On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 7:52 am, Jeremy Grip wrote: > > Not seeing this available yet from the usual suspects. Can we assume the > price will look like the PTP version? > > > > > > Jeremy Grip > North Branch Networks,LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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