Well Ben you can take your time on that whole DFS thing, I just bought
15 cases of NanoBridges.. lol
Forbes
On 1/8/2015 1:39 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
You got it Chris! Thanks for the feedback. Stay tuned on DFS for AC
and beams...
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net
<mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
Issue with Beams have cleared up for us, but the rollout was not
without its problems, all the initial problems were with the 19’s.
They work well enough now minus DFS.
Everything else I get with the AC line. I just can’t bite off on
anything UBNT puts out until DFS is ready. I just don’t have the
spectrum to make it work. I hedged my bets on the Nano Beams
getting this and lost on it.
Thanks for your time Ben.
*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:30 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability
Inline below...
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chris Ruschmann
<ch...@scsalaska.net <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
I didn’t think the lite would be available after the full
launch of the real product. No advantages there though as it
doesn’t sport any of the magic other than AC, which isn’t
magic at all.
BM: Yes, lite will continue to be available. The advantages are
achieved by splitting the PTP and PTMP functions. Believe me...we
definitely don't want to create a new sku, just to create a new
sku and charge you more for it ;)
You can’t sit here and deny the fact that the Nano Beams had
issues initially. I had to pull all our initially installed
ones from the field due to some serious AP wide degradations
that didn’t get resolved till much later. We have them rolled
out now in minimal fashion on newer firmware and some beta 5.6
BM: Sorry, not aware of the issues (though admittedly I do not
follow the SW issues as closely). Based on demand for the product
and requests for DFS approvals and lack of chatter regarding
issues....are you still experiencing issues? Can you get them
sent to me and will have support review?
Let’s see, how many other products can I list that had been
rushed to market….
BM: No question not perfect here...Especially with our
announcements. I think this is getting much better (edge switches
shipped at time of announcement, NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP, New AC
antennas, AF-24HD just announced and first shipment arriving next
week, etc...). You can also see that the AC product line has a
TON into it at launch. It also has a number of networks active
using it for many, many months.
*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability
With the NanoBeam what is half baked? We have heard great
response from the product worldwide (in each market).
Software or hardware issues? What were you beta testing?
If you want the one rocket, you can always use the lite...This
option is there. However, you won't have the benefits of
airPrism. With airPrism you really need to break out PTP and
PTMP to get best performance (and with AC).
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Chris Ruschmann
<ch...@scsalaska.net <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet
and whether It’s enough to justify upgrading existing
stuff. Still deciding even if I want to move forward with
it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a lot of
time and money beta testing a fully released non half
assed product.
That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that
supported the full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer.
I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was
easier to keep stock this way for replacements. Now I have
to keep track of multiple items and SKU’s.
*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ben
Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism
availability
We actually do call out what each are capable of on the
data sheet. The days are not gone of one device doing
everything (this still applies with the majority of the
products). However, we have optimized a PTP product and a
PTMP product. Many have asked for this and I think it
will be a welcome change. We are not charging more for
this. we are just getting the most out of PTP and most
out of PTMP.
Yes, it will have DFS. I would expect in Q1. The lites
are PTP and PTMP.
The products are fully capable. If you are referring to
DFS, we release now because many want to use them now in
the bands they are available in USA and also the rest of
the world can use bands available.
You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW
features discussed in our webinar yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g
This is not half baked.
Thanks,
Ben
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann
<ch...@scsalaska.net <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the
days when one device could do everything I guess.
Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the
products are usable for me. I have PTP Lites sitting
on the shelf since release cause I can’t use them.
Why not wait to launch a fully capable product instead
of half assed one.
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<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of
*Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:32 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism
availability
I assume you are talking about PTP (with airPrism) and
not the lite version right? The Lite version can do
PTP and PTMP.
So, in summary, there are hardware differences for PTP
and PTMP with airPrism that maximize performance for
PTP and PTMP. There are also software enhancements
for PTP only version (TDMA framing, Long distance
mode, etc...).
Thanks,
Ben
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Fadgen
<tfad...@coastinet.com <mailto:tfad...@coastinet.com>>
wrote:
I guess I f..... up with my assumption since I
just ordered PTP that I do not need. I guess I
have to remember my old motto from the early
'80's, "Trail Blazers sometimes get arrows in
their backs" or "bleeding edge technology is
called BLEEDING for a reason"
Tom Fadgen
coastinet.com <http://coastinet.com>
On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 8:55 am, Ben Moore wrote:
The PTP version will always be just PTP (at
least as it currently stands). They have
different hardware than the PTMP version (not
yet announced). We are planning to start
shipping PTMP AirPrism version this month to
distributors.
Thanks,
Ben
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fadgen
<tfad...@coastinet.com
<mailto:tfad...@coastinet.com>> wrote:
I am hoping just like the non-prizm
5ac-lite's which originally came out as
PTP only, a firmware release will open up
PTMP.
Tom Fadgen
coastinet.com <http://coastinet.com>
On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 7:52 am, Jeremy
Grip wrote:
Not seeing this available yet from the
usual suspects. Can we assume the
price will look like the PTP version?
Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC
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