;-) On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Forbes Mercy <wi...@wabroadband.com> wrote:
> Well Ben you can take your time on that whole DFS thing, I just bought > 15 cases of NanoBridges.. lol > > Forbes > > > On 1/8/2015 1:39 PM, Ben Moore wrote: > > You got it Chris! Thanks for the feedback. Stay tuned on DFS for AC and > beams... > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > >> Issue with Beams have cleared up for us, but the rollout was not >> without its problems, all the initial problems were with the 19’s. They >> work well enough now minus DFS. >> >> >> >> Everything else I get with the AC line. I just can’t bite off on anything >> UBNT puts out until DFS is ready. I just don’t have the spectrum to make it >> work. I hedged my bets on the Nano Beams getting this and lost on it. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your time Ben. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:30 PM >> >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability >> >> >> >> Inline below... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> >> wrote: >> >> I didn’t think the lite would be available after the full launch of the >> real product. No advantages there though as it doesn’t sport any of the >> magic other than AC, which isn’t magic at all. >> >> >> >> BM: Yes, lite will continue to be available. The advantages are achieved >> by splitting the PTP and PTMP functions. Believe me...we definitely don't >> want to create a new sku, just to create a new sku and charge you more for >> it ;) >> >> >> >> You can’t sit here and deny the fact that the Nano Beams had issues >> initially. I had to pull all our initially installed ones from the field >> due to some serious AP wide degradations that didn’t get resolved till much >> later. We have them rolled out now in minimal fashion on newer firmware and >> some beta 5.6 >> >> >> >> BM: Sorry, not aware of the issues (though admittedly I do not follow the >> SW issues as closely). Based on demand for the product and requests for >> DFS approvals and lack of chatter regarding issues....are you still >> experiencing issues? Can you get them sent to me and will have support >> review? >> >> >> >> Let’s see, how many other products can I list that had been rushed to >> market…. >> >> >> >> BM: No question not perfect here...Especially with our announcements. I >> think this is getting much better (edge switches shipped at time of >> announcement, NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP, New AC antennas, AF-24HD just announced >> and first shipment arriving next week, etc...). You can also see that the >> AC product line has a TON into it at launch. It also has a number of >> networks active using it for many, many months. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:49 AM >> >> >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability >> >> >> >> With the NanoBeam what is half baked? We have heard great response from >> the product worldwide (in each market). Software or hardware issues? What >> were you beta testing? >> >> >> >> If you want the one rocket, you can always use the lite...This option is >> there. However, you won't have the benefits of airPrism. With airPrism >> you really need to break out PTP and PTMP to get best performance (and with >> AC). >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> >> wrote: >> >> I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet and whether >> It’s enough to justify upgrading existing stuff. Still deciding even if I >> want to move forward with it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a >> lot of time and money beta testing a fully released non half assed product. >> >> >> >> That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that supported the >> full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer. >> >> >> >> I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was easier to keep >> stock this way for replacements. Now I have to keep track of multiple items >> and SKU’s. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability >> >> >> >> We actually do call out what each are capable of on the data sheet. The >> days are not gone of one device doing everything (this still applies with >> the majority of the products). However, we have optimized a PTP product >> and a PTMP product. Many have asked for this and I think it will be a >> welcome change. We are not charging more for this. we are just getting >> the most out of PTP and most out of PTMP. >> >> >> >> Yes, it will have DFS. I would expect in Q1. The lites are PTP and PTMP. >> >> >> >> The products are fully capable. If you are referring to DFS, we release >> now because many want to use them now in the bands they are available in >> USA and also the rest of the world can use bands available. >> >> >> >> You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW features discussed in >> our webinar yesterday: >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g >> >> >> >> This is not half baked. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> >> wrote: >> >> So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the days when one >> device could do everything I guess. >> >> >> >> Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the products are usable for >> me. I have PTP Lites sitting on the shelf since release cause I can’t use >> them. >> >> >> >> Why not wait to launch a fully capable product instead of half assed one. >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:32 AM >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability >> >> >> >> I assume you are talking about PTP (with airPrism) and not the lite >> version right? The Lite version can do PTP and PTMP. >> >> >> >> So, in summary, there are hardware differences for PTP and PTMP with >> airPrism that maximize performance for PTP and PTMP. There are also >> software enhancements for PTP only version (TDMA framing, Long distance >> mode, etc...). >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Fadgen <tfad...@coastinet.com> >> wrote: >> >> I guess I f..... up with my assumption since I just ordered PTP that I >> do not need. I guess I have to remember my old motto from the early '80's, >> "Trail Blazers sometimes get arrows in their backs" or "bleeding edge >> technology is called BLEEDING for a reason" >> >> >> >> Tom Fadgen >> >> coastinet.com >> >> >> >> On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 8:55 am, Ben Moore wrote: >> >> The PTP version will always be just PTP (at least as it currently >> stands). They have different hardware than the PTMP version (not yet >> announced). We are planning to start shipping PTMP AirPrism version this >> month to distributors. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fadgen <tfad...@coastinet.com> wrote: >> >> I am hoping just like the non-prizm 5ac-lite's which originally came >> out as PTP only, a firmware release will open up PTMP. >> >> >> >> Tom Fadgen >> >> coastinet.com >> >> >> >> On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 7:52 am, Jeremy Grip wrote: >> >> Not seeing this available yet from the usual suspects. Can we assume >> the price will look like the PTP version? >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeremy Grip >> North Branch Networks,LLC >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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