Excuse the top post. I didn't have any replies to the below. I'm not sure whether that means that people agree or disagree - probably the latter.
I apologise if I've come across too strongly on the issue - I am quite passionate about this point, but I don't think such a disagreement, if there is one, should prevent us going forward with the idea behind this proposal, which I think most people support. I'd like it if people would read the specification and we can discuss any outstanding issues, possible in a meeting as Martin suggested. * Matthew East: > Hi, > > * Corey Burger: >> Martin wrote: > >>> The idea would be to have an ubuntu-news team, which would in fact >>> just group all of us working on UWN, The Fridge, Ubuntu.com News and >>> FullCircle. >>> >>> Most of the current projects members overlap, as the news stories do, >>> so something useful for The Fridge, might also be useful for UWN. > > I think these projects should definitely be sharing resources, which is > why I made the suggestion in the first place. However, I think it's a > big mistake to create a new team, whose job is to look after all the > projects, at least at this stage. > > My main reason is that it's too large a change. Given that the projects > already have established processes and memberships, unifying resources > and creating a new team at the same time is making too many changes at > the same time. A team needs to have processes about people and project > management and each of the news initiatives that we've talked about > already have those in place. I wouldn't be against improving some of > those (in particular the Fridge which I've been involved in, because > we've talked about ways of improving the team processes many times), but > that is a separate subject. Taking these on at the same time is going to > lead to too much confusion and it's too ambitious. > > We may not be that far apart, I suppose. I don't have any seriously > strong objections to creating another launchpad team, as long as it is > an umbrella team made up of existing groups; and provided that it is > clear that the existing groups are the groups working on the various > related projects. > > Down the line we may wish to bring some of these groups together and/or > give them common processes, but in my opinion it's way too early for > that. I've learnt over the time I've contributed to Ubuntu that the most > important principle for working with communities is to take things a > step at a time, and in bitesize pieces. > >> If spam did not exist I would agree with you. So better to have two >> lists, one to collect the original sending with a reply-to to the 2nd >> list, the actual main discussion list. > > Strongly disagree. Spam on open lists isn't actually a serious problem. > A reasonable spam filter will always get rid of the vast majority, and > in any case you can just ignore it. > > I certainly don't think it's worthwhile having two separate lists, which > is (a) confusing for newcomers, (b) annoying in terms of requiring > everyone to subscribe to two lists. After all, if *one* of your two > lists is open, then everyone has to deal with the spam anyway. Or had > you envisaged that some people would subscribe to one list, and others > to another? I just think this will create too many issues unnecessarily. > > Matt > -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
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