John Botscharow wrote: [...] >To think that we can do effective marketing without > leadership and structure is. to repeat myself, quite naive and will > result in this team accomplishing nothing but lots of conversation.
I have been doing effective marketing without an elected leader in this team, so you see I do not have the same view. I note there is a difference between acts of leadership and an elected leader. Do you have in mind that part of the future structure here would include an elected leader? Without an elected leader here I have been in touch with canonical on occasions and used resources lent by them at my request. If I can do such things, then so can you John or anyone else, it does not 'need' an elected leader, and I will not stop doing what I want to do until we have one, and I find it hard to imagine what advantage I would see from an elected leader. There may even be disadvantages. Suppose John that you were the elected leader? What advantage would there be? Why could you not state your views now without being elected, and If I am inspired by them I would follow. You do not need to be elected unless you want to use a level of coercion to be invoked. > I apologize if this offends anyone, but like I said, this situation is > very frustrating. It does not offend me, I understand your frustration. I urge you to consider that you have a great deal of power at your disposal as an active member of this list, whether or not you see an elected leader emerge. I put a question - how far would you follow a leader if there was a directive with which you disagreed? I would follow a little way, but not very far. I believe, I know, that aspects of leadership can emerge, without a situation of formal election. I am in favour of the marketing team getting organised, starting with objectives, then moving to achieve the objectives. I do not find the idea of an elected leader in this type of group a compelling one. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing