Soren Hansen wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:54:17PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> One of the work items listed in: >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-community >> >> is now: >> >> + ubuntu-server IRC channel: both support and devel. Change the topic to >> + remove Support. > > Oh, wow. I completely missed this. Thanks for pointing this out. > > I hope this is just a suggestion someone put into the Gobby doc at UDS, > rather than an actual work item. > > Mathias, you're set as the drafter. Can you chime in, please?
I can chime in, I was there. Jorge Castro was present and said he noticed the Ubuntu Server team didn't really chat in #ubuntu-server at all, and the channel was quite dead from a "team discussion" perspective. It was just made of unanswered support questions that echoed in a big void, which looked bad. In my case, actually having those unanswered questions kind of prevent me from using the channel for random development chat. I don't feel like appearing as an insensitive developer that continues his work and jokes with co-workers while people beg for help on the channel. And most of the time I could help them, if only I had the free time[tm] to do so. So I support the idea that having a separate support channel for -server would result in a more lively server development channel, where you could chat about development without (directly) appearing like a careless bastard^H^H overworked person. When/if I have time to do server support, I move to the other channel and answer questions. There is value in having separated topics. That said, I agree that support should go somewhere well defined, rather than just being "removed from topic". I've no opinion on how best to separate them: * #ubuntu-server = dev // #??? = support * #ubuntu-server = support // #ubuntu-server-dev = dev * ... The second option might actually be more discoverable, since developers will know where development talk occurs, while it's difficult to change the habits of the unwashed masses. -- Thierry Carrez Ubuntu server team -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam