Ahh, this conversation (cinelerra and vst) has been moved to an other thread by the way.
On Jan 29, 2008 9:40 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 2:36 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You only outlined 20 hours of your day. You still have another 4 hours to > > help > > people :-) > > > > > > FWIW, I think ubuntu studio is a very solid distro compared to others that I > > tried so kudos to the whole team. > > > > > > Perhaps adding cinelerra and a very painless way of having vst plugins would > > throw this distro miles ahead of everyone else. > > > > Having those would really be nice indeed. But both have troublesome > licensing issues, which is a major show stopper since the distro would > become break the law. The video world is very difficult in linux > because of all the patenting and property behind all major codecs, a > great example is the dv format video cams use, and the weird avi > license issues. > > vst is property of steinbeck and they don't allow much distribution either. > > maybe this things will become more open eventually, at least I hope so. > > Luis de Bethencourt > > > > Haig > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 28 January 2008 18:48:25 Luis de Bethencourt wrote: > > > And by the way... just to give you a feel of how time consumed we > > > are... I give you a peek of my life... > > > > > > I have a part time software development job. > > > I'm in collegue studying computer science engineering. > > > Vicepresident of a photographer's NGO. > > > Videoartist/VJ. > > > Help in some stuff in general Ubuntu. > > > > > > Plus I'm a core developer of Ubuntu Studio. Which is why you guys are > > > reading me right now. > > > > > > Free time? Hmmmmm... not really :P > > > > > > Luis de Bethencourt > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008 12:33 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ohh and by the way, the whole thread was about asking for help for > > > > something that if you guys aren't chimming in, won't work in Hardy. > > > > Which is no big deal since it's no show stopper, just a little nice > > > > feature to have for your enjoyment. > > > > > > > > So it's more like a... "if it isn't in Hardy, well, you guys know why" > > > > > > > > No hard feelings. > > > > > > > > Luis > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008 12:30 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OK guys... Let me throw some cold water to this debate and clarify > > > > > things since I know where everybody is coming from. > > > > > > > > > > Cory K., as myself is tired of a lack of quid pro cuo from the > > > > > community. We deal in a daily basis with people with a lot of sudden > > > > > motivation to help, that need to learn a lot. Which don't get me > > > > > wrong, it isn't bad, we all were newcomers when we started but we grab > > > > > their hand and spend a lot of our time helping this newcomers to see > > > > > them just disappear a few days later. > > > > > > > > > > I suppose everybody here has some IRC experience... it is the > > > > > development example of when in a support channel, somebody comes in > > > > > without reading the manual, machine guns questions about his problem, > > > > > expects quick and extensive replies, and when he gets his problem > > > > > fixed he just logs off from irc and bye bye for ever. no writing down > > > > > the fix somewhere other people can find it, no staying around the irc > > > > > channel to help other newcomers. > > > > > > > > > > We Ubuntu Studio developers, and Ubuntu developers in general are > > > > > volunteers. So just imagine how frustrating it can be to loose time > > > > > frequently with this people. > > > > > > > > > > Meaning no offence to thomas fischer I can tell he hasn't even done a > > > > > launchpad search, and he comes and asks Cory to explain him the > > > > > problem into detail. Stating he doesn't have time, well, we don't too > > > > > and here comes Cory's reply... > > > > > "When you're willing to help, I'll answer. I get more than enough > > > > > "suggestions" on a daily basis." > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the word selection was not correct. What he means is please > > > > > research, use your time and offer me a solution. Just not come along, > > > > > ask me to stop and answer 5 questions, and try something this list > > > > > which contains some stuff that has already been done. > > > > > > > > > > My respect to Fernando, he proves interest too bad he lacks the > > > > > technical knowledge, I do sincerely hope he finds it very fun, enjoys > > > > > it and learns from it. > > > > > > > > > > About Eddie, show some respect please. Free software is a meritocratic > > > > > system. Please don't come here trying to get a flame war started, go > > > > > contribute as best as you can in the project that you like best. > > > > > > > > > > Now throw the rocks at me if you like... > > > > > > > > > > Luis de Bethencourt > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 9:29 PM, Eddie Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Cory K. wrote: > > > > > > > Eddie Armstrong wrote: > > > > > > >>>> When you're willing to help, I'll answer. I get more than > > > > > > >>>> enough "suggestions" on a daily basis. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> May i remind you that your rudeness is not in the spirit of > > > > > > >> Ubuntu!! - and I don't think you have a right to address members > > > > > > >> of this list like this - I for one don't like to read this sort > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > >> rudeness to fellow Ubuntu users > > > > > > >> Here's another suggestions > > > > > > >> If you can't take the heat.. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I get constant shit, offer people the opportunity to help and > > > > > > > it doesn't happen I usually just take it. No more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll say what I want and will give what I get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take your own advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Cory > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll take my own advice > > > > > > - if you're an example of what people have to put up with in order > > > > > > to > > > > > > use Ubuntu Studio you can shove it - > > > > > > being a developer doesn't mean you can talk to people the way you do > > > > > > and if this list can't keep juveniles from having tantrums then I'll > > > > > > leave it too! > > > > > > > > > > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > > > > > luisbg > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > GPG: B0ED1326 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > > > > luisbg > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > GPG: B0ED1326 > > > > > > -- > > > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > > > luisbg > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > GPG: B0ED1326 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > luisbg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPG: B0ED1326 > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
