Ok, sorry Erich. So the solution is to back everything up on your current OS and install an entirely new OS to be able to get XFCE instead of just installing XFCE? I'm ok if that is the solution, as the maintainer you must have a good reason to do so, i.e. removing unused software, multiple dependencies for the software, being able to support users without trying to determine if it is the install of XFCE causing issues, etc.
Jon -----Original Message----- From: Erich Eickmeyer <er...@ericheickmeyer.com> Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 15:40:24 -0700 What on Earth is going on in this thread? Have any of you been paying attention to https://ubuntustudio.org/news for the past 3 years????? We have a quick an easy solution to this! If you don't want KDE's Plasma Desktop, there's a very simple solution. 1) Install Xubuntu (for the Xfce Desktop) 2) Install ubuntustudio-installer 3) Install what you need for Ubuntu Studio using Ubuntu Studio Installer! This is all outlined on https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/ and linked to from the front page of https://ubuntustudio.org! There's no need to go through all of the stuff you're going through! I don't know why, for the life of me, people don't simply check the website where they got the software to begin with to see if maybe, just *maybe* there's a simple solution! I have been working on making Ubuntu Studio simpler for *everyone* for the past 5 years and this is what I see? People not paying attention? People not looking for the simple solution but rather looking for the most convoluted way to do somethign when the answer is in front of their faces all along? I simply don't get it! *throws hands in the air* You're welcome! -- Erich Eickmeyer Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio Technical Lead - Edubuntu On Fri, Apr 28 2023 at 09:26:47 PM -05:00:00, Jon <j...@destar.net> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon <j...@destar.net> > Reply-To: j...@destar.net, Ubuntu Studio Users > <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > To: ""James Harkins"" <jamshar...@zoho.com>, ubuntu-studio-users > <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04 > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:23:24 -0500 > > -----Original Message----- > From: ""James Harkins"" <jamshar...@zoho.com> > To: jonr <j...@destar.net>, ubuntu-studio-users > <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04 > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:13:06 +0800 > > ---- On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:41:42 +0800 Jon wrote --- > > > Just wanted to know if you have tried installing XFCE as your > > window > > manager or is there something that KDE plasma has that you > > require? > > Plasma doesn't have anything specific I need. (This is actually part > of > my reason for posting -- in case Ubuntu Studio maintainers are > listening, this user is offering some feedback that Plasma has > decidedly not been an improvement.) > > Online, I see > https://www.tecmint.com/install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora ("sudo > apt install xfce4") -- but, when I asked about this initially, the > advice on this list was to "install Xubuntu then use the Ubuntu > Studio > Installer to change it." > > So... is there a particular disadvantage installing the XFCE packages > over my current installation? A fresh install + all my software is at > least a half day (which I had to do recently, after trying Ubuntu > Studio 22.10 and then having to reinstall 22.04, oops, so I know how > long it takes). > > hjh > > Well, it's hard to give any recommendations when you don't know the > users skill level to revover from errors. I don't believe XFCE would > overwrite anything, it should install and give you the opportunity to > login to the XFCE desktop from the login screen. I would think it > would > be as simple as: > > apt update && apt upgrade > apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > reboot > > Also, I am not hearing others have the same issues as you are, not > saying they are not, just not hearing it. So that leads me to think > it > may be a hardware issue, i.e. a driver that is not playing nice. If > you > are leery of going the XFCE route, update all drivers from the > manufactuers website, hopefully they have Linux drivers. > > You could also try and troubleshoot if you have another computer or > laptop on the network. When it freezes again, see if you can log in > through ssh and check dmesg and the logs to see if you can find the > cuplprit. Do you have any scripts running that you setup and forgot > about, possibly sitting in cron, does the issue happen randomly or do > you notice after say 23 minutes and 6 seconds it happens? > > Just some things to look at while you decide what to do, others may > have better ideas to help troubleshoot, but I usually solve 95% of my > issues at that starting point. > > Regardless of th linux OS I use, I always install XFCE. I don't want > to > waste resources on pretty colors or bouncing windows. I want all > resources for Audio/Video/Graphics applications. > > HtH, > > Jon > > Always wisdom in the 'Enter' key and the 'Send' button. > > Better idea, setup KVM or some other virtualization system and > install > Ubuntu 22.04, then go to town. If you wreck it, start over, no harm > done. Then you have an environment to test all you want without ever > touching your workstation > > > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
