Ok, sorry Erich.
So the solution is to back everything up on your current OS and
install
an entirely new OS to be able to get XFCE instead of just installing
XFCE? I'm ok if that is the solution, as the maintainer you must have
a
good reason to do so, i.e. removing unused software, multiple
dependencies for the software, being able to support users without
trying to determine if it is the install of XFCE causing issues, etc.
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Erich Eickmeyer <er...@ericheickmeyer.com
<mailto:er...@ericheickmeyer.com>>
Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
<mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com>>
To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
<mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com>>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 15:40:24 -0700
What on Earth is going on in this thread? Have any of you been paying
attention to <https://ubuntustudio.org/news> for the past 3 years?????
We have a quick an easy solution to this! If you don't want KDE's
Plasma Desktop, there's a very simple solution.
1) Install Xubuntu (for the Xfce Desktop)
2) Install ubuntustudio-installer
3) Install what you need for Ubuntu Studio using Ubuntu Studio
Installer!
This is all outlined
on <https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/> and linked to
from
the front page of https://ubuntustudio.org
<https://ubuntustudio.org/>! There's no need to go
through all of the stuff you're going through!
I don't know why, for the life of me, people don't simply check the
website where they got the software to begin with to see if maybe,
just
*maybe* there's a simple solution!
I have been working on making Ubuntu Studio simpler for *everyone* for
the past 5 years and this is what I see? People not paying attention?
People not looking for the simple solution but rather looking for the
most convoluted way to do somethign when the answer is in front of
their faces all along? I simply don't get it!
*throws hands in the air*
You're welcome!
--
Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio
Technical Lead - Edubuntu
On Fri, Apr 28 2023 at 09:26:47 PM -05:00:00, Jon <j...@destar.net
<mailto:j...@destar.net>>
wrote:
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Users
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To: ""James Harkins"" <jamshar...@zoho.com
<mailto:jamshar...@zoho.com>>, ubuntu-studio-users
<ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:23:24 -0500
-----Original Message-----
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To: jonr <j...@destar.net <mailto:j...@destar.net>>,
ubuntu-studio-users
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:13:06 +0800
---- On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:41:42 +0800 Jon wrote ---
> Just wanted to know if you have tried installing XFCE as your
> window
> manager or is there something that KDE plasma has that you
> require?
Plasma doesn't have anything specific I need. (This is actually part
of
my reason for posting -- in case Ubuntu Studio maintainers are
listening, this user is offering some feedback that Plasma has
decidedly not been an improvement.)
Online, I see
https://www.tecmint.com/install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora
("sudo
<https://www.tecmint.com/install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora%C2%A0(>
apt install xfce4") -- but, when I asked about this initially, the
advice on this list was to "install Xubuntu then use the Ubuntu
Studio
Installer to change it."
So... is there a particular disadvantage installing the XFCE
packages
over my current installation? A fresh install + all my software is
at
least a half day (which I had to do recently, after trying Ubuntu
Studio 22.10 and then having to reinstall 22.04, oops, so I know how
long it takes).
hjh
Well, it's hard to give any recommendations when you don't know the
users skill level to revover from errors. I don't believe XFCE would
overwrite anything, it should install and give you the opportunity
to
login to the XFCE desktop from the login screen. I would think it
would
be as simple as:
apt update && apt upgrade
apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
reboot
Also, I am not hearing others have the same issues as you are, not
saying they are not, just not hearing it. So that leads me to think
it
may be a hardware issue, i.e. a driver that is not playing nice. If
you
are leery of going the XFCE route, update all drivers from the
manufactuers website, hopefully they have Linux drivers.
You could also try and troubleshoot if you have another computer or
laptop on the network. When it freezes again, see if you can log in
through ssh and check dmesg and the logs to see if you can find the
cuplprit. Do you have any scripts running that you setup and forgot
about, possibly sitting in cron, does the issue happen randomly or
do
you notice after say 23 minutes and 6 seconds it happens?
Just some things to look at while you decide what to do, others may
have better ideas to help troubleshoot, but I usually solve 95% of
my
issues at that starting point.
Regardless of th linux OS I use, I always install XFCE. I don't want
to
waste resources on pretty colors or bouncing windows. I want all
resources for Audio/Video/Graphics applications.
HtH,
Jon
Always wisdom in the 'Enter' key and the 'Send' button.
Better idea, setup KVM or some other virtualization system and
install
Ubuntu 22.04, then go to town. If you wreck it, start over, no harm
done. Then you have an environment to test all you want without ever
touching your workstation
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