Brother Kipengi,To: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Let me with trepidation throw in my one cents' worth about
this feudalism in our land; for as you may know, rationality
and feudalism are most inimical.
So to start, Who really restored feudalism in Uganda?
For me I have always applauded mu7 for telling us that if
we don't want to be enslaved we should cease to be stupid.
I remember the late Col. Sserwanga-Lwanga, Major Gen. David
Tinyefunza, and many members of the High Command then
rejecting this sommersaulting back into time.
May be we should recall what Museveni's answer to them then.
Yes, if we listened to mu7 about escaping being enslaved we
should recall what he told them. I hope we can recall.
That Mutebi is telling an outright lie about mu7 restoring feudalism
goes without saying. What would the guy say, otherwise?
Some cynics here in N. America have some bizarre advice to women:-
That in case you are being raped why not sit back, relax and enjoy it?
Again as Kaguta said, may be we dont deserve a country.
May be we deserve a slave camp.
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"Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus." ( I have become an enemy for speaking the truth ) St Paul!
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Mitayo Potosi
Thanks for your apologist attitudes and posturing as if to say I never understood that the lady you now want to disenfranchise from Buganda said it.If all these types of statements are considered in their totality the fact still remains that restoration or giving of the monarch should not be seen as a favour for which a people whose livelihood and hence culture revolve around should forever be grateful.We have to reach a stage when we have to differentiate rights from previledges in order to be able not to cheerlead dictators calling them benovalent.That would indeed be an oxymoron. That is what I wanted to pass and I still stand by it. Thanks. Emirembe gibe nawe. Kipenji. ============================================================================================================== --- jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kipenji, > > it is necessary to understand the language of > Ugandans. When they say that > Mu7 gave us the monarchy, what they actually mean is > that it was restored > under his government (although I'm sure he had a > hand in the decision and > through negotiations). It is similar to when they > say that Obote killed us. > This doesn't mean the man himself actually took the > gun and shot people. > That said, I'd hate to think that you are > attributing the statement, which > you found demeaning, to the Kabaka. He never said > it. And before I hear > shouts from all sorts of corners, let me stress that > the lady MP who said it > is not even an ethnic Muganda. But she has a right > to her opinions. > > Kasangwawo > > > >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says Kabaka > Mutebi-Monitor > >25/11/2002 > >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:56:07 +0000 (GMT) > > > >I want to believe there is no contradictions in > these > >statements.That granted what I find demeaning is > the > >statement that Mu7 gave us the monarchy and since > we > >are not sure whether his successor will be pro > >monarchism we have to start or should we continue > >negotiating for it?.I have all along thought and > known > >that the Monarch was there even before the colonial > >times and to read this type of statements is to say > >the least very mind boggling.What Mu7 has done is > >actually to undermine the Monarchy so that it > becomes > >subservient to him and hence this type of > statements. > >B4 1966 everybody who cares to know, knows what the > >monarchy was about and if that is what we want > under > >the aegesis of Federalism then we can hide under > these > >nefarious statements. > >Thank you. > >Kipenji. > >==============================================================--- > >jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I > >don't see any contradiction between what the > > > Kabaka said previously and > > > what is reported in the article below. All he is > > > stressing is that federo > > > needs to be negotiated (and not achieved by > other > > > means). This in no way > > > negates the statement that federo is around the > > > corner. > > > > > > Kasangwawo > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says Kabaka > > > Mutebi-Monitor 25/11/2002 > > > >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:25:32 -0500 > > > > > > > >Can some body help me here, didn't he just say > that > > > federal is around the > > > >comer? What is he smoking these days? > > > >Em > > > > The Mulindwas communication group > > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Omar Kezimbira > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:24 AM > > > > Subject: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says > Kabaka > > > Mutebi-Monitor 25/11/2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > Go slow on federo says kabaka Mutebi > > > > By Wandera w'Ouma > > > > Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi has advised > Baganda > > > who are pro-federo to > > > >negotiate their case. > > > > He said federo (or federalism) could only be > > > granted when parties > > > >negotiate rather than exert pressure on the > central > > > government. > > > > The Kabaka gave the advice while launching > the > > > Kayunga District > > > >Investment Committee headed by area LC-V > Chairman > > > Stephen Dagada and > > > >UTODA's Hajji Moses Katongole on Friday. > > > > "Yes, those who want federo should not > > > pressurise government while > > > >asking for it," said Arthur Bagunwa, Buganda's > > > minister of local government > > > >who accompanied the Kabaka. "We should not > > > forcefully ask for it but rather > > > >continue with negotiations." > > > > "We are not sure if the person who will > succeed > > > President Yoweri > > > >Museveni will be pro-monarchy," said Kayunga > woman > > > MP Victoria Ssebagereka. > > > >"He has given us the monarchy and he has been > > > contributing in our cultural > > > >functions." > > > > She said those in favour of federo therefore > > > should take advantage and > > > >persuade Museveni to deliver before retiring in > > > 2006. > > > > Kayunga Assistant Resident District > Commissioner > > > Mugarra Kabagambe > > > >appealed to Kabaka and cultural institutions to > > > support government in > > > >building democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. 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"Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus." ( I have become an enemy for speaking the truth ) St Paul!
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Mitayo Potosi
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