Owor Kipenji I salute you for that clear-headed statement. This has turned into Obote _Yekka discussion where people are expected to praise Obote and if you dare say anything negative about UPC or Obote, you are automatically a Museveni spy and that you killed people in Luwero. It has turned into a stage to attack the Movement leadership without giving alternatives. If people have identified problems, they have failed to suggest solutions. Once I asked members here, " If you were President of Uganda, what would you like to change" I expected people to offer alternatives and do not remember anyone who offered any suggestion. Much as we point out, and more often try to provide the truth in accordance with our ability, rhetoric is the name of the game. We have learned one thing, the only one way to handle the ignorant or malicious critics, is to ignore them.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Owor Kipenji Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: "Federation the answer for Uganda" by Prof. Bukenya ( 1st May, 2002) Yaobang and Lutimba Matovu,thanks a lot for your contributions.From the outset I would say the truth about the decline of discussions on ugandanet may lie in betwixt these two extreme views.One thing that is certain is that most often we do not factor in the burn out syndrome that is common when people of like minds tend most often to talk about the same issues. On the assertion of the net being infiltrated by the so called Movement spies I would take that with a pinch of salt.We are really suffering massive paranoia if we allowed ourselves to arrogate Mu7 and his cohorts such omniscience that even on the cyberspace they can spy on us.Mu7 is failing to run even the minimum of Uganda's foreign missions,why on earth would such a government of fundamental change be interested in spying on Ugandans whose places of aboard they may never come to know,as if that was their primary mission.Let's not make heroes out of these fellas.It is possible the netters just got burnt out and hence the recycling of discussions and use of vulgar language that has been alluded to. On the formation of other discussion fora,I do not think it had anything to do with politics,but rather with survival tactics amongst the various ethnic groups who have their so called ethnic fora.After all it is better to know where you have come from in order to know where you are going and not just obliterate that fact for that is living in the realms of wishingful thinking . Thanks. Kipenji. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------- Lutimba Matovu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yaobang, > > Your assumption that Ugandanet is declining because > its infested with agenst of the Uganda Govt is > absurd. > > Ugandanet and its members are not worthy spying on. > Ugandanet has no impact at all on the Uganda > political > landscape. > > The weakness of Ugandanet is lack of people with > positive ideas and the tendency of recycling issues. > Nothing new happens on this forum. Its the same old > theme of anti Movement rhetoric. Even when its clear > to everybody that the Movement has made so much > progress in the country, Ugnetters think otherwise. > > Its the negativity of Ugandanet members which is > killing this forum. > > LM > --- Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dr. Kigongo, > > I'll not get into the federo question/answer, for > > now, but do you know what > > caused the fall of Ugandanet? I'll tell you why. > It > > is mainly because > > Ugandanet is now infested with the intelligence > lice > > of the Museveni > > dictatorship. That's why. I'm sure the net will > rise > > again to its full glory > > as soon as there is a regime change. > > > > > > y > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: "Federation the answer for > > Uganda" by Prof. Bukenya ( > > >1st May, 2002) > > >Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:06:52 EST > > > > > >Dr Dambisya > > > > > >thank you for your note. Clearly you think the > > federo case is oversold, > > >however you have not answered my question "under > > what arrangement, in your > > >opinion, can Ugandans live together under a > civil > > administration?". > > > > > >The fall of Ugandanet was not due to the > formation > > of other discussion > > >groups, it was due to "ushenzi huondoa akili". A > > handful of persons > > >posted > > >so much abusive and boring material that many of > > the netters gave up on the > > >forum. The same thing would happen outside > > cyberspace, one drunk spewing > > >abuse can end what was , before his arrival, a > > stimulating discussion in a > > >bar. > > > > > >It is possible, though trying , to maintain a > > useful discussion in spite of > > >the abusers. Those who have something worth > > listening to must write often. > > >That is why I eally implore you to give us your > > opinion. > > > > > >Kigongo > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 > months > > FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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