Dear Uganda Netters, Last year thousands of women all over the world died during childbirth. Should we stop reproducing until the process has been proven safe?
In the past 15 years or so two shuttle crafts have blown up killing all aboard. Should America give up space exploration until a "safe shuttle" has been built? This year alone, thousands of people have died in car accidents. Should driving be banned and we go back to using mules and horses which do not crash? This year, hundreds of people have died when buildings they were in collapsed on top of them. Should humanity go back to caves? The fact is that federalism works. It worked well in B/Uganda prior ro 1966. This is not to say that it cannot be improved upon. I see no reason, other than the pulpable hostility, perhaps even hatred, for throwing out the baby with the bath water! We need to move forward with federalism. I am sure those who don't want it can always live in place where there is no federalism. Mary --- emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But Mulindwa, past errors should not stop us from > moving forward. You talk > about accountability in the US what about the ERON > case and other on going > corperate scandals which are unfolded are you > suggesting that because of > those problems, corperate America should be shut > down. All systems be they > in Uganda or America are run by human beings and i'm > yet to see or hear of a > human run system that is 100% perfect. Look i would > like to one day go to > west nile, Acholi, Langi etc and see developments of > the scale or even > greater than what is found in Kampala or Buganda and > probably even own a > home there, i think your plan ties people down into > an inferiority complex > where non-Baganda feel they can not prosper anywhere > else but in Buganda, a > good government should encourage development in > every part of the country > and i think that is what Mary is talking about. > > Please don't view every proposal different from > yours as politically > motivated, try to objectively analyze the LONG TERM > MERITS to our country. > Federalism has long term benefits to Uganda and the > people who actually > stand to benefit most are non-Baganda. The problem > is as i have said before > most of the other groups are concentrating on what > Buganda is proposing > instead of coming up with there own views and ideas > and this is where they > may lose out, remember also that Federalism is not a > winner take all system > it is a give and take system. > > > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Nadduli Defends Land Sale > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:15:47 -0400 > > > >Mary Nagadya > > > >Let us tell the whole story, yes those taxes are > paid on all levels in > >America, but the levels as well have > responsibilities they take with those > >collections. My self as Mulindwa, do not feel > comfortable giving Mengo my > >taxes so that they use it to put medicines in > Buganda hospitals, when they > >can not tell me what happened to the monies that my > father had saved in > >Teefe Bank. And I am a Muganda. So let us not copy > things from other > >nations > >and take them for granted that they will work in > Uganda, and that is the > >error we have done over and over. Instead of you > coming to America and you > >pick up that statement in abstract of taxes > collection, go back on the > >drawing board and post on Uganda net what the > Americans did before they got > >those responsibility/ies. Americans built a system, > and it is a huge and > >functioning system, they have accountability, you > can not loot money from a > >State Bank and walk free, tell me one person in > Buganda who was held > >accountable for the failure of Teefe Bank? Let me > lower the level of my > >question, do you know him or her? Where is he or > her? And that is the same > >cramped up face you are going to bring in to work > on my taxes paid in > >Buganda? No I am sorry. That is how screwed is the > process being thrown > >into > >our throats of federalism. For it states, if you > give Buganda an autonomy > >of > >some kind Buganda will become accountable. That is > Bull and you and I know > >it. > > > >Many Ugandans have for example come into these > nations and asked for a > >simple thing credit card, many have asked huge > limits on them, Nagadya > >what > >percentage of Ugandans still have those credits in > your own city? And I do > >not know where you live. Oh let me give you another > one, in all your > >Ugandan > >friends in your city, how many do you have that if > you need 50,000 dollars > >in 15 minutes, you can call this midnight? For > those are the true Uganda > >friends in America. You see because we come into > these nations and we think > >that getting a credit card is a right, getting a > mortgage is a right, no it > >is a privilege and you have to work for it, in > other words you start by > >getting a good income, and you do not need a credit > card of 20,000 dollars > >credit limit for the Bank will give it to you, may > be you need one of 500 > >dollars. Accountability. Responsibility. We must > work on the basement > >before > >we build the house, Ugandans start building by > putting in the windows. It > >is > >sad that this is the same way you want to build our > nation. > > > >But here is another good one, you state " There is > a simple solution if you > >do not want to pay particular taxes. If you are a > Yankee and do not want to > >pay Texas taxes: just do NOT live in Texas or > whatever other state you find > >offensive. The same applies to other levels of > government." That is the > >very > >reason why Ugandans will fight this kind of > Federalism, Ugandans especially > >non Baganda have invested more money in Buganda > than Baganda, and you want > >to start now threatening them with these fantasies? > Okay we will stay on > >the > >side line and watch. > > > >And those are the problems you will face over and > over for you have refused > >to do a proper home work, you have refused to > discuss serious issues for > >you > >have one weapon you are using as "Shock and awe" > You all hate Buganda. > >Marry > >Nagaddya it will hunt you at the end of the day. A > good example is the > >native Indians, can you tell me which reserve in > America collects taxes and > >is developing its self using those taxes, yet they > are as well in America? > >That can very easily happen as well in Uganda. Give > Ugandans the whole > >facts > >don't be selective. > > > >All well. > >Em > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans > l'anarchie" > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mary Nagadya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:04 PM > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Nadduli Defends Land Sale > > > > > > > Dear Uganda Netters, > > > > > > Here is why I Haji Nadduli is spot on about the > > > projects issue. > > > > > > In America, taxes are collected at the federal, > state, > > > county, and city levels. > > > > > > No one is forced to pay any of the lower taxes > (here > > > lower means sub-federal). > > > > > > There is a simple solution if you do not want to > pay > > > particular taxes. If you are a Yankee and do not > want > > > to pay Texas taxes: just do NOT live in Texas or > > > whatever other state you find offensive. The > same > > > applies to other levels of government. > > > > > > Otherwise as long as you enjoy the services > provided > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------- This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
