Come on now Matek, you are being ridiculous! You do have some thinking ability
going for you but there are times when you just come across quite raw.
If all you are looking for is the presidency then obviously me and you do not
see eye to eye on that. What is holding the presidency position with a system
like the current NRA/M, or that of Amin of the 70s?
To me what informs my decision is a system, which was the very cornerstone of
late Dr. Obote's leadership, that made him very popular in Uganda body
politics, supported overwhelmingly by Ugandans all across the country. If late
Dr. Obote was merely looking for the presidency do you think he would have
gunnered support from all over the country?
The "Culu" Dr. Besigye did not run away from the NRA/M because he wanted to
become the next president of the country; rather, from my limited knowledge,
the man ran away because he disagreed with the system, and therefore was
advocating for reform. Given the herd mentality in the NRA/M system rooted on
hate towards other fellow Ugandans, reform from within was not possible. The
man then rebelled!
Based on his conviction to bring about change, if indeed he is in position to
bring about change, why not work with him to bring that change about instead of
hitting brick walls every year for the last 20 years?? Does it make sense to
you that you keep on hitting brick walls for the next several years? By then
even Miria Obote would be dead; all the other UPC bigwigs would be dead. And
guess what will not be dead around you? Throngs of illiterate new generation of
Ugandans being squated upon by foreigners: The Indians, Rwandese now schooling
themselves on the back of Ugandan poor; the foreign investors now owning land
and businesses in the country, & many many more!
The Chinese say everything starts with a first step! UPC is not going to
achieve anything if it refused to make that first step: Strategic cooperation,
with an eye on the much bigger change you and Mulindwa are dreaming of!
Wake up now Matek, or never in your lifetime.
Ocii
Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That Culu Dr. Mwesigye rebelled against the NRMO of Yoweri Museveni..after he
Mwesigye released he was duped by the NRM Military dictatorship to derail
Ugandans political progress under the UPCII government, is indeed welcome...but
then does that mean that now since Mwesigye had a change of heart, the people
of Uganda must now honour him with a position of President of Uganda..? the
answer is NO!!! period..
Matek
ocii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mulindwa,
If you can not realise the ridiculouness of your arguments then there is no
reason to wonder why the NRA/M system is still in power upto today. People like
you, who know nothing of strategic importance are doing the country evil, to
maintain the NRA/M system in power by all means, fighting nothing yet
pontificate they are seriously engaged in a struggle to oust the NRA/M
government from power!
Dr. Besigye has rebelled agianst the system he once supported. He is not the
only person who, having been in a system many proclaimed is wrong, rebelled
against it; a system he once faught for, putting his life on the line to defend
come hell or high water! There are many politicans like that, including even in
Canada where you supposedly live! The only difference is that within the
canadian political system, not many wrongs are done like they are in Africa
generally, and Uganda in particular. As a result, what do parties do when a
member crossed the floor and joined a different party in canada? The party that
the politican who crossed the floor to join, would simply welcome the member,
work with him to bring the other party to its knee! This is called strategic
politics! Does this mean the party would not have some bones to chew with the
new member? Obviously not! But what is of serious importance is to secure their
overwhelming victory first, to be able to promulgate
the kind of law or constitution that would make preponderance, their vision.
Strategy, strategy, strategy, punks!!! God, you guys are soooo dense!!
What you are railing about Mulindwa, is pure nonsense and a demonstration of
stupidity at its hight! The Besigyes joined the NRA/M way back several years
ago, when they were still University students. To expect them then to listen to
other parties' messages cautioning Ugandans on UPM, transformed to NRA/M, when
you know darn well that the political foundation of the movement system rests
on "hate" toward Northerners and Easterners, a polarizing politics designed to
gunner support in the South and west, is simply moronic!! Hold especially an
older person like Eriya Kategaya for not listening to cautions not to support
the NRA/M, and I would say well, you have a point. But even then, such grieve
would not make sense. Why? Because Eriya Kategaya grew up together with
Museveni; they therefore knew what they were upto when they launched the
guerilla movement!
Mu7 galvanized Westerners and Southerners by wipping the anti-Northern and
anti-Eastern Ugandans political messages! Many Ugandans from these regions
(West and South) fell for it; if old adults could fall for Mu7's messages then,
what about Makerere students who hail from those areas? In the process of the
"liberation" from Northerners and Easterners, some of these Mu7's followers
went ahead and committed very serious crimes in the North and East of the
country to the point, they cannot see themselves surviving under any system
different from the NRA/M. Why do you think Besigye was not elected in his own
constituency? Is it because Besigye's people think he is evil, one who
masterminded the establishement of the NRA/M, you would like us to believe? If
so, why is it not that the same people in that region of the country voted
overwhelmingly for a different party, say like UPC or DP, other than the NRA/M
if they do not think highly of the FDC?
Mulindwa, if you are still failing to think correctly, let me think for you.
The reason westerners still vote overwhelmingly for NRA/M and not FDC, is
because: 1). They are looking at Uganda politics from the movement political
looking glass: North/East vs. South/West! As a result they could not vote for
the Besigyes for, in their political camera, the Besigyes are traitors! Period.
You on the other hand, who should have been quick on your feet, to welcome the
Besigyes to craft solutions for speedy downfall of the NRA/M, now that there
are rebels in their rank, is busy demonstrating political buffoonery, attacking
Besigye for he did not listen to UPC cautions to Ugandans not to support the
NRA/M way back in the early 80s ----20 solid years later!! Make sense to you??
The Besigyes supporting NRA/M is a done deal Mulindwa; like a spilled milk.
It is a done deal!! You cannot keep wailing over it day in day out. For how
long are you going to keep wailing over this, knowing fully some of these
people joined the NRA/M in their University days? For another 20 more years
while the UPC on the other hand is engaged in much ado about nothing, save
releaseing useless Press Releases weekly? You fools cannot be serious Mulindwa!
Never ever rant over a spilled milk incessantly if you ever must move
forward! Strategize, and this is the message I have been passing to readers,
but you and your sidekick, Matek are stuck in a rut, hankering for UPC's
tranquil government again!! Guest what, my friends, things have changed!! Dr.
Obote is dead now; he ain't coming back. It is upto you so called UPC members
to craft the way forward for the party!! The way I see it though, with your
errand political activism that literally has brought the party to its knee, you
people are going nowhere. Bitter I know, but hard realities are needed to wake
some zombies up! Take it or leave; hate the message all you want, I don't give
a rat's arse! A spilled milk is exactly what it is, a spilled milk! It can
never be anything else.
2). They have great fear of the unknowns. Given what has been done in the
North and East of Uganda, westerners especially are profoundly afraid; very
very afraid. Why? Because the political looking glass Mu7 duped them into has
cause untold sufferings of fellow wananchi in the North and East of the
country. Yet some of those who cimmitted these gruesome crimes in these regions
are not even Ugandans; they are Rwandese, the like of Paul Kagame, now
president of Rwanda, dead Fred Rwegyema, plus many more who are today officers
in Rwanda army. To get more information on these criminals hiding in Rwanda
Ugandans need people like Mande and Kyakabale. But you idiots are busy
attacking these people. You are literally attacking everybody. If you people
are not politicians, for fuck sakes let those who are, do the job. The strength
of politics rest more on strategies than on political vainglory, and even less
on buffoonery!!
One can get all the info you are trying to dig from the Besigyes not
obviously by attacking them, but through political cooperation for a common
cause. It is pure illusion to even think that you can attack the Besigyes
today, and they will release all the information you are looking for tomorrow.
Politics does not work that way; it just does not!! It is only when the
movement government is ousted from power, and a new political dispensation is
put in place, including an established body of inquiry, that you call for yet
in utter ignorance, that sensitive information can be collected. The Mandes,
the Besigyes, and the Kyakabales then become even very very important!!
But here we have Mulindwa and Matek practicing a politics late Dr. Obote even
never practiced!! Attacking everything that walks and know the word politics so
long as the walking thing is not UPC! If dogs could buck the word politics and
could chose not to be UPC, I am sure these idiots would even attack the dog!!
Yet Matek try to score cheap point by referring to the debate as market
political brawl!! Jesus!
It is you people in a market politics trust me.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Matek, who is that rebelling aginst the NRA/M and today?
Mulindwa, it is afende Kurakunta. You know we told the dude not to join the
NRA/M, he did not listen!! Now he is running away!!
How some of us are very slow. Geez!
Correct Ed. But they are not going to get away!! They must tell us who
killded who first before anything else!
Matek trust me, that must be the prerequisite. Have you got any new
information from him yet? What has he told you so far about the inner workings
of the NRA/M?
Nothing yet! Ed what these NRA goons know is motto, so to say.
Karakunta has nowhere else to go but back to the NRA/M, trust me.
Ed these people have seen nothing yet! Motto atawakaka on their *&^%*! Have
you got the Press Release for this week from Mama Miria?
Matek no; not yet. I am calling her office now to find out if its ready.
.........!
Aluta continua!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can't be serious. Have a good day folks.
Ocii
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ocii
Let us forget the people murdered in Uganda that is not important and that is
not going to be told by Besigye. Agreed. Let us talk bout corruption that
Besigye has stated publicly, can you kindly state any detail that you have got
from Besigye about the corruption in Uganda apart from generalities? What new
information have you got from Besigye now that he is out of the Movement than
you using your antidotal evidence that we all must keep quite for you know that
he knows but he can not tell. Secondly there is a second very fundamental
statement that Ugandans always make and they make it during an election. When
we had an election that brought in Obote two, Yoweri Museveni went home and
stood under an umbrella of UPM, the Ugandans that new Museveni than any of us
refused to elect the man. The rest of the population of Uganda including Dr.
Kiiza Besigye, failed to take that message and supported Museveni in the Luwero
war, and this is the Museveni we got up to today. Had
Ugandans including Dr. Kiiza Besigye listened to the voices of the Ugandans
that knew Museveni, we would have not lost our country as we have lost it today.
It is very bizarre that Besigye has never stood on any ticket in any Uganda
constituency to be elected, but we can wonder as well why the people of the
entire Western Uganda that know this doctor better than you a Luo from Eastern
Uganda, refused to elect their son's political party even in a single
constituency. FDC has never won even a single constituency in Western Uganda
and I do not see them winning one come 2011 either.
As we failed to follow the knowledge of Museveni's constituency one can
marvel why we are failing to follow the knowledge of Dr Kiiza Besigye's
constituency. And I can wonder what you are privy to about this man that his
entire birth constituency failed to be privy to.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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