>> can you state what speed - up and down - that BT considers to be >> "good" and wants to be able to offer that to everybody, where >> reasonably practicable? Would that be ADSL2+ speed, VDSL2+ speed? > > Not sure ADSL or VDSL "speed" is the right way of putting this.
I chose them purely to illustrate what service people might currently get if they're lucky to have a copper phone line in good condition which isn't too long, has low cross-talk etc. >> For example, can a property which gets, say, ADSL2 with only 16Mb/s >> down, 400Kb/s up, be considered good, acceptable or poor? > > That depends on what you are doing Paul! Can one watch HD movie on 16M - yes > they can. Several! Can I kill gigamoth on counterstrike - yes I can. > > And to avoid being shot or Bill Gatesified you'll pardon me if don't given > you my personal view. thanks, I was fishing for an official figure of "good enough". ...snip... > Our vision is FTTP everywhere (has been for some time) but that's a 10+ years > (more like 20) or longer project. NGA and G.FAST are great ways to get more > speed out quickly, check the pace of all the FTTP companies if you don't > believe me - demand for these high speed services is very poor and if I look > at customers on higher speed services few of them ever use more than 40-50M > sustained . Did I mention we need to make a return? thanks. there's an element of "we don't get much demand for FTTP from domestic properties", but then when I try and get FTTP as a domestic user I can't find anyone seemingly able to take an order for it. > What doesn't help is when the regulator decides to take a swipe at a fair bet > investment... I don't think anyone is particularly impressed with Ofcom. Or gov't policies on taxing fibre. > I love seeing community builds they help us remind how difficult this is and > many of them are doing a great job but customers will eventually want more > than these communities can often provide. And there's a lot of domestic customers who seem to prefer to pay the absolute bare minimum and put up with a crappy service and moan about it! I've had people go wide-eyed when I tell them I pay Zen £42 a month including line rental, because they pay less than half that for crappy ADSL which they b*tch about all the time.