Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote,
> > I suspect a lot of our tools haven't been thoroughly tested with > PLane-1 and are likely to have these sorts of bugs in them. Since Plane One is still fairly new, this is understandable. I'm also having trouble getting Plane Zero pages to validate. Spent several hours revising some of my pages as a result of some kindly off-list suggestions. (Most of the pages on my site were rewritten to pass Tidy.exe long ago, and apparently were already correct.) After getting the revised pages to pass the Tidy validator (which is also from w3), it was a big surprise that the first four pages checked with the W3 validator failed to pass. Amazingly, some pages didn't pass because " wasn't recognized as a valid named entity. After tidy warns that <STYLE> tags need a type element, went ahead and added them, but W3 validator insists that type elements in a STYLE tag invalidate the page if it is HTML 3.2 (IIRC) . Just for fun, tried validating a page from W3's own site, http://validator.w3.org/sgml-lib/WD-html40-970708/entities.html It failed too. A fatal error was generated because the page lacks the DOCTYPE declaration, and the validator just can't seem to get past that. There's an interesting article about how use of the DOCTYPE breaks existing web pages at: http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol4/html_no22.htm One big issue with the W3 validator is that it doesn't seem to recognize charset=x-user-defined as a valid character set. Since the pages marked as user defined use NCRs, technically they could be considered to be in UTF-8 (since the pages are actually encoded in ASCII), but using the UTF-8 declaration in such pages breaks the display. M.S.I.E. has always behaved a bit erratically with UTF-8, although newer versions of the browser have offered slight improvements in this regard. Pages made with NCRs often display differently from identical UTF-8 pages even though there is no reason for this to happen. The NCR pages are usually the ones which display as expected. Correct display is paramount. Other issues are secondary. Best regards, James Kass.