They should have waited for the MPC8641D. Dual G4 core, and dual 733 MHz DDR memory busses. That would make a killer powerbook even if it wasn't any faster in MHz.


Except Moto can't get the damned thing out the door in quantity at a reasonable price, and would really rather make other chips anyway.

We all know the dual core thing from moto has been promised for some time now - whilst the specs are impressive - proof is in delivery. I too lament the passing of PPC.

I am also going out on a limb if people really think that first generation or even second revision Intel mac, be it desktop or laptop (most likely in my opinion) be significantly faster than the models they replace then I suspect many are in for bitter disappointment.

I fail to see how. *existing* Intel-based laptops are significantly faster. Unless they've utterly and completely botched the Intel port of OS X, an Intel-based Mac is going to kick a PPC's butt.

Sorry bad wording - I believe the first candidates to be Laptops for Intl chips, second point was people expect it to be a watershed change when they are announced I don't see it that way - this time next year then maybe a viable time to "switch" but I think PPC will give Intel a run - particularly on the desktop side. I do hope you are right but from what I've seen in PC laptops I aint that impressed with the speed from the so called faster CPUs that they have. Just remember that even now there are parts of the OS that still not 64bit, so I am betting it will take a while to get full Intel code, then port all the supporting apps to full code, etc, etc.




We've been getting PC laptops that are *killing* Macs in price, performance, weight and power consumption for a year now. *This* is why the change to Intel.

Unfortunately the design edge, feature edge and cache that came with earlier Powerbooks (most notably the Titanium which still command stupid prices secondhand here in Australia) no longer exists for Apple so they cannot command the premium prices and seemingly lesser speed capable machines. I will conceed the real value of their laptops has fallen dramatically over last few years but still "generally" cheaper to buy a windoze box, particularly when you look at vanilla machines.

Actually, no. Apple Powerbooks are better made, and when you match feature for feature with PC laptops, you pay the same price pretty much.

The PC manufacturers have a vast array of cheaper, less capable systems, though.

Think you may have missed point slightly, compare brand names and you are right but when you get to vanilla branded things then no contest. Some PC laptops even come with integrated TV tuners, card readers, web cams etc. For too many people they do give a rats as long as it has a xxx GHz processor, a DVD burner and perhaps WIFI everything else is secondary or they don't care about, except for how much it costs them.

In fact I believe Apple to be amongst the first to offer a 100GB 7200 rpm drive in a laptop as CTO. Trust me with some thing like VPC this is a huge advantage.



But Motorola would rather make and sell cellphones, and IBM would rather make CPUs for game consoles and high end servers. At least Intel is focused on the kind of chips and goals Apple needs.


And given they have been chasing Apple for over a decade then they will most likely provide good supply at least in first part of relationship. I just hope that the "intel inside" is a sticker that I can remove as a Mac user of some 18+ years I am still struggling to swallow that I will have to see "Intel Inside" on my Mac.

No you won't. <http://tinyurl.com/7dqto> Gone, just in time for Apple system (I'm certain, as fanatical as Steve is about the Apple brand, you would have never seen Intel Inside stickers on 'em anyway)

Leap ahead is better? hmmm

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