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:) jk, we shouldnt get into financial discussions, or investments or value trading. Trevyn On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:20:38 -0600, Adam Barrett wrote: I went to school to both acquire debt and get an education to pay said debt. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM, wrote: In addition, school rarely is a bad choice. Debt is bad no matter how you slice it. But if you cant pay your school debt, you probably would struggle with or without school. Trevyn On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:08:48 -0600, Mac Newbold wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM, wrote: >> How often have you asked your plumber to see his/her degree? >> Would you get brain surgery from someone self taught on google? >> >> Creds are just that. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/credentials [4] >> >> I would not pay for a credential unless you knew the value exchange of >> the credential in your long term plans. > > Exactly. > > Different fields have different credentials too - there's a big > difference between an apprentice plumber, a journeyman plumber, and a > master plumber, and it very much makes a difference in what people are > willing to pay for their services and expertise. In our field > (programming, development, web-related tech, etc), there are employers > who don't care about degrees and those who very much do. Doing > freelance or contract work you'll similarly find that many clients > don't care about your degree(s) so much as they care about your > ability to get work done right and on time for a price they can live > with. At the same time, before a client even invests the time in > giving you a chance to demonstrate your skills, they'll almost without > exception want some kind of evidence that you know what you're doing, > whether it's a portfolio, recommendation from a previous client, or a > degree or other credential that gives them a level of confidence that > you're not going to be a waste of their time or money. > > The scales of whether to get the degree or not sometimes tip depending > on where you currently work... if your current job has tuition > reimbursement benefits or similar programs promoting education, that > might make it worthwhile even if you aren't guaranteed a raise or > promotion by finishing school. Unless you're planning to stay at that > job forever, and are reasonably confident that your plan is realistic, > it is good to do the schooling even if it doesn't have an immediate > direct benefit, because it's hard to know exactly when you'll need it > or wish you had it until it's too late to get it in time to take > advantage of an opportunity. > > These days I think it's very hard to be confident of your long term > plans over the next 30+ years, so getting your schooling done, > especially while you're young[er], is I think a very wise choice. If > you're planning to stay in a job/field where credentials don't matter, > perhaps you're aiming too low with your long term plans. > > Mac _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org [5] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu [6] IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net [7] Links: ------ [1] mailto:tre...@esourcehome.com [2] mailto:m...@macnewbold.com [3] mailto:tre...@esourcehome.com [4] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/credentials [5] mailto:UPHPU@uphpu.org [6] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu [7] http://irc.freenode.net _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
