My question is considerably simpler ... why hasn't the mothership responded to ANY of these concerns??? D. Ruisaard
-----Original Message----- From: use-livecode <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Craig Newman via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2025 2:11 PM To: How to use LiveCode <[email protected]> Cc: Craig Newman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: LC Built Apps held Hostage, Runtime execution rent - looked at FAQ I am not a professional programmer, though I am in my 38th year of xTalk. I cannot fathom the idea that one can build an app, using a program that one has a subscription to, then get publish that app,, and then be REQURED to maintain the subscription in order for that app to run. Forever. What happens if, say, the author dies and all users suddenly go dark? Must his children take up the subscription? And, look, I know dying is one's own fault. This cannot be true. Scotland, are you aware of the angst that is rampaging through your world? Would a little clarity help, even if it is only to confirm the nonsense I described above? You will be left with only myself from the cadre of old-timers you once were thankful, even grateful for. Craig > On Dec 23, 2025, at 2:44 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alex Shaw: > > > This is disturbing. > > yes - LiveCode Create Kill switch - not good. > "If your license lapses, your apps will ... not continue to run." > > > I can no longer use LC10 but Create does have a classic mode. > > try - > https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > > and request LC10 in your account if necessary. > > > Does this mean apps created in Classic Create also stop working if > > the license is not renewed? > > good question. likewise for LC10. > > Create license allows Classic Kill switch - > > "2.3 ... Any purchase of LiveCode Create automatically applies this > EULA to ... LiveCode Classic." > > but is Kill switch tech lurking in Classic? > strong precedent in Classic license - > > "2g) Where the LiveCode Software has been purchased on a monthly > subscription, Created Software will only operate while the > subscription is current." > > toxic! > > I think convincing resolution would need guarantee in EULA that Create > and LC10 Apps do not require licensing to run, do not use a connection > to check their licensing, and no Kill switch tech in code as verified > independently at __. > > Best wishes, > > Curry K. > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > [email protected] > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list [email protected] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list [email protected] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
