Hi Alasdair,

Not a huge learning curve really - if you stick with the model side it is effectively like using the well tested TS v6.6 - actually it is TS v6.6.

You dont have to use the Workspace area. The one thing I found about TS is that the manual is very good and comprehensive. Also dont forget to suck down all the NOW free training videos ( used be $89 a pop ) over at the Caligari Site - training link. Look down left when their at icon menu of various courses under Fundamental and Master also.

To be honest I would Model away and everything else in Realsoft, then export to TS and have a go off the Char Anim / Procedural Anim. One area worth a look is the live side of Workspace and also the Trueplay ( might need to install this from caligari site ). The ex owner of Caligari is big into shared spaces and collaboration online - this is what TS v7.6 is about ( Workspace ) and why MS bought it - it is/will be well integrated into VIRTUAL EARTH.

Maybe can try a live Collab - when i look into it too :)

I know this is the RS Userlist - but to be honest ( like a broken record ) - I am well into multi apps and cross app collaboration - getting the best out of all - so I see this as topical.

Cheers
Aidan

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Hi Alasdair,

"only one problem : no renderer is included so it is just a modeller......:(
Alasdair"

Their are two internal renderers in Truespace - Lightworks and Virtualight.

These are accessed from the modeler side. The Workspace side is a work in progress. This currently only supports the external renderer specially designed for it called VRAY. Its an implimentation of VRAY for Truespace. You still have to purchase this for $300 or so.

Lightworks and Virtualight are the traditional renderers in TS. Virtualight has caustics and GI etc.

The aim of TS up to when it got bought by Microsoft was to create a whole new realtime workspace area for modelling based on Directx. Through ver 7 up to the new v7.6 they have been porting the toolsets over to the Workspace area from the old modeller area. So in effect the old Modeller area is in fact TS v6.6 as a plugin to the new Workspace concept. You might note in the setup areas mention of the bridge. This is similar to LIGHTWAVE.

To access either Renderer on the Model side - up top right of the model space work area is a horizontal menu of icons inc large X Y Z - the first Icon by default on the left is RENDER SCENE - RIGHT CLICK this and then look at the settings that appear in the right vertical bar. At the end of these settings is RENDER ENGINE and a drop down box allowing choice of either Lightworks OR Virtualight. If you choose Virtualight you need to right click the same Render Scene button AGAIN to get the Virtualight settings panel up.

If you hold the mouse down on the Render Scene button you will get other Render options like render to file, render current object ... Also over to the right of this horizontal panel their is a hidden menu right under the DIRECTX Logo icon in this same panel ( also might be set to OpenGL ). Its a tiny square with a depression in the centre - move the mouse over this and another vertical panel pops up - click the tiny grey bar at the top of this panel to force the panel to stay.

All very quirky I know - but hey its now free!

Hope this helps
Aidan


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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: Yet another bizarre move in the world of 3D - Truespace now FREE, as in air - forever!


Hi Guys,

I suppose you all know by now, TRUESPACE ( originally by Caligari, but who recently got taken over by MICROSOFT ) is now FREE - forever. This is the latest version too - last week it would have cost you $595 or so:

http://www.caligari.com/Products/trueSpace/tS75/brochure/intro.asp?Cate=BIntro

All you need to do is go to download button - login OR register ( free ) - and download.

Not alone is the app now free but also ALL the original paid for training videos.

This is not a limited offer and the app is NOT CRIPPLED. Their is no catch .. really!

From the Caligari Forums info has seeped through that over at the Blender forums ( www.blenderartists.org ) - they are complaining about TS being made free. Now thats a good one :)

But indeed - will this have any impact on the 3D industry at all? I know that some complain about TS and its interface. But it has a huge toolset, does the lot inc Char Anim, is hugely oriented to virtual world stuff and gaming.

Apparently the app will keep on developing FOR FREE, so its not abandonware - yet. Be that as it may - this is not a free previous version - this is a free CURRENT VERSION!

Aidan



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only one problem : no renderer is included so it is just a modeller......:(
Alasdair


oops sorry found the screen / file render
Alasdair





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it puzzled me why I could only render on the model space and not the other
and another learning curve to climb :)
Alasdair





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