Another nail in RS's coffin? Can RS compete anymore? Maybe...if they had
full blown polygonal modelling support (using RS's excellent SDS/Nurbs
tools) and full import/export capability. But FREE? Time will tell how this
pans out.
Russell
p.s. Remember that it is Microsoft that bought them, and they CAN afford to
support further development if they choose to. I'm sure they didn't buy the
company and release the product for free just to be "nice"...They have
something in mind.
p.p.s. I know I would be quite pissed if I had bought tS last week at full
price!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan O Driscoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <user-list@light.realsoft3d.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Yet another bizarre move in the world of 3D - Truespace now
FREE, as in air - forever!
Hi Wolfram.
this is the thread I think -
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=131041
I only have this 2nd hand - it was being talked of over at the Caligari
Forums.
Yes - the real investment in the software is the time learning it, I
agree. But never the less with my experience of 3D apps not all apps do
everything. Most projects would require a number of apps to complete. Most
3D artists these days have multiple 3D tool apps in their 3D toolbox. Over
the years we may buy a number of apps. Its nice to see these apps
developing with their userbase. Indeed their userbase investing in this
development via purchase of plugins and upgrades. In the case of TS they
threw in this curve ball without any of the past userbase knowing it was
coming. So having invested all along it can come as a bit of a shock when
this same apps current version suddenly becomes free for all to use.
In my statement - "Apparently the app will keep on developing FOR FREE" -
you may have noticed the word APPARENTLY. Again from the caligari forums
and staff at these forums this - as far as they know - is what will occur
in the immediate future. But back to that word APPARENTLY - I said this as
I do not believe it will. I reckon this is a stab at Google + Sketchup. In
a while one will have Truespace Basic ( free / maybe crippled in some
way ) and Truespace Pro ( pay for it ). This after they gather a sizeable
market out of users using 7.6 for nothing for a while. Who knows - now
that MICROSOFT own the app.
"TOM Mullen's books about char animation"
Yes - I have this book, it is a very well put together book. BUT, from
experience AND discussion with Tony over the following very point - It
does not include any tuition on the new NLA / Character Walk Cycle
Modifier procedures added at 2.45/2.46. The latter was a large leap in
char anim in Blender and makes older procedures discussed in the book a
little redundant. If one seeks information online re newer modifier
procedures - one hits a bit of a wall - not too many people are familiar
yet with new procedures in this regard.
Outside of that - I use Blender - I think it is an excellent app free or
not AND do not have any problems with the Interface as some do or its
development. I have used Blender in conjunction with Realsoft and Modo,
mainly for Character Animation of models from these apps. In Modo's case I
was able to bring the animation back via .MDD format to final Render and
Texture. In RS'es case - Well In my opinion - Character Animation in RS
is a fare bit behind, but thats for another day. AND no .MDD or full .FBX
support - yet! ( as in RS 6 supports FBX, but APPARENTLY only for model
data, not anim data )
With regard to any mention of blender in my previous email, I just
mentioned it as I came across discussions on same, nothing more, nothing
less - shooting the breeze!
Cheers
Aidan
At 22:20 27/07/2008, you wrote:
Aidan O Driscoll schrieb:
Hi Guys,
I suppose you all know by now, TRUESPACE ( originally by Caligari, but
who recently got taken over by MICROSOFT ) is now FREE - forever. This is
the latest version too - last week it would have cost you $595 or so:
http://www.caligari.com/Products/trueSpace/tS75/brochure/intro.asp?Cate=BIntro
All you need to do is go to download button - login OR register (
free ) - and download.
Not alone is the app now free but also ALL the original paid for training
videos.
This is not a limited offer and the app is NOT CRIPPLED. Their is no
catch .. really!
From the Caligari Forums info has seeped through that over at the
Blender forums ( www.blenderartists.org ) - they are complaining about
TS being made free. Now thats a good one :)
Sorry, but I couldn't find any remark about it at the URL specified
:(.....
But indeed - will this have any impact on the 3D industry at all? I know
that some complain about TS and its interface. But it has a huge toolset,
does the lot inc Char Anim, is hugely oriented to virtual world stuff and
gaming.
The REAL investment in 3D software is NOT the price for the Program but in
LEARNING to use it ;-).......
Apparently the app will keep on developing FOR FREE,
How's THAT ? No app can develop itself out of nothingness ... and
apparently (and HERE does this qualifying
adverb really fit) they did NOT publish the source or have any intention
to support freelance development further
on (as the Blender people do who work under the GPL / Creative Commons
licence), so this seems to be a
dead end :(.....
so its not abandonware - yet. Be that as it may - this is not a free
previous version - this is a free CURRENT VERSION!
As you mentioned the Blender community - I strongly encourage anybody
interested in 3D programs to have a look
at what a free AND supported app is capable of (look also for the latest
TOM Mullen's books about char animation
& particles/plants in Blender and their new SIGGRAPH contribution - the
Big Buck Bunny movie)
Wolfram
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