Hi Stefan, big sorry for my "ignorance". I was under stress, while writing and reading mails. (OK, that's not the best explanation, my head was somewhere outside maybe. Hopefully this behaviour will not return. If i do it again, hit me on my fingers)
In your second experiment: ================ >>> 2. Duplicate the spherical Mapping in the Sphere1 level so you get this.. >>> Sphere1Level >>> Sphere >>> SphereMap1 >>> SphereMap2 (Rotate this 90 deg) >>> (The same problem here, only the effects of the 2nd SphereMap is giving >>> result) ================ That's maybe because the fade is set to 0(zero) in the beginning of the shader. My wondering was, that the fade is not working as exspected (like clipping, but with the option to get smooth transparent areas) when having 2 or more objects in the same space :-? Because the "fade" was always a good alternativ solution to make objects invisible, without having to fiddle around with highlights or something else like the fiddling when using transparency. I'll grab out the field evaluator thinks today. Best regards, Matthias (While behaving only a little bit bad, don't hit to hard, please ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beg-inner" <begg...@spray.se> To: <user-list@light.realsoft3d.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Re: V7 release date yet? Field Evalutator.. > Hi Matthias.. > > Why didnt you even say a single word about the fade issue ? > > Where are any of the problematic Field Evalutator prjs (with an explanation > of what actually is not working and what is buggy) ? > So I can test them.... > > Just so I know that I dont look into these matters in vain ! > > Take Care > Best Regards > Stefan Gustafsson ( Beg-inner ) > A Proud Owner and User of Real3D and Realsoft3D.. > > >> Hi Stefan, >> >> it's time consuming to learn the new apps >> (Houdini and Maya, hehe and PMG, >> I know Jean-Sebastien didn't like the last one). >> >> Maybe the new RS will have some *.mdd import option. >> It's real fun to switch animations between the apps >> without affecting any shading or other options. >> Model in RS animate in another app and switch back >> to render in RS without any problem would be great. >> >> Hopefully all the new stuff is in my head in the next two >> or three month ;-) >> Then I'll be fully back to RS :-) >> In the meantime there's maybe not to much time left >> to explore the new RS v7. >> >> Matthias >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Beg-inner" <begg...@spray.se> >> To: <user-list@light.realsoft3d.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:32 PM >> Subject: Re: V7 release date yet? Field Evalutator.. >> >> >>> Hi Matthias.. >>> >>> Ok.. I hope you dont do so much in other apps that you forget about RS =) >>> >>> And yeah dig out those olds prjs so the bugs can be found and fixed ! >>> >>> I had a fast look at your Fade issue.. and it seems buggy. >>> Though materials and rendering is not the area I am good at (if any >>> hehe=) >>> Here is what I found out.. >>> >>> Yep you only have to move (or scale or anything that change so at least >>> some >>> surface part of the two objects differs) the 2nd sphere a fraction then >>> the >>> entire cross renders... >>> The issue you having (as far as I see) is only happening when ALL surface >>> of >>> the two overlapping objects is exactly in the same space ! (When you use >>> two >>> or more object that is..) >>> So if its a bug showing at that criteria, or it might be an accuracy >>> thing >>> similar to Boolean operations that you shouldnt have exact space of two >>> or >>> more objects, since you get artifacts...(z fighting..=) >>> >>> Though it dont seem to be only a two object in same space problem.. >>> Do this in your fade prj you attached.... >>> 1. Delete the sphere2 level >>> 2. Duplicate the spherical Mapping in the Sphere1 level so you get this.. >>> Sphere1Level >>> Sphere >>> SphereMap1 >>> SphereMap2 (Rotate this 90 deg) >>> (The same problem here, only the effects of the 2nd SphereMap is giving >>> result) >>> 3. Multiselect the two SphereMaps and use the 'Average' map thing on it >>> and >>> you get >>> Sphere1Level >>> Sphere >>> Average >>> SphereMap1 >>> SphereMap2 (Rotated 90) >>> (Now you at least gets the whole cross to render, but not what you want, >>> as >>> its not unified rendered.. its additive illuminated where they overlap >>> and >>> more faded where they dont,., >>> >>> Well I am no guru on VSL or materials in general... but those are my >>> first >>> and fast takes on this fade issue =) >>> >>> Take Care >>> Best Regards >>> Stefan Gustafsson ( Beg-inner ) >>> A Proud Owner and User of Real3D and Realsoft3D.. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Stefan, >>>> >>>> good idea :-) >>>> Last days I've learned some other 3D apps, >>>> some web-projects have stolen some time, too. >>>> Maybe I should have a look for the old scenes. >>>> Attached is another scene, which seems buggy to me. >>>> "Fade on objects in same space". >>>> Maybe you can confirm it :-? >>>> Then I'll send it to the RS-Team, too. >>>> >>>> Matthias >>>> > >>>> >>>>> Hi Matthias.. >>>>> >>>>> Now that you had Vesa's attention and the ability to fix the Field >>>>> Ev... >>>>> why >>>>> dont you give him a prj to show the issues you know about the FE to get >>>>> it >>>>> fixed.. `? >>>>> Or have you already done that, but privately to Vesa `? >>>>> >>>>> Its also always good to add each issue into the bugdatabase, then its >>>>> easier >>>>> for others on the beta team, me for example, to test it out if needed >>>>> to >>>>> pinpoint the actual bug(s), so they can easier be found and fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Stefan Gustafsson ( Beg-inner ) >>>>> A Proud Owner and User of Real3D and Realsoft3D.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Great news :-) >>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the "field evaluator" fixed in v7, too :-? >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Vesa Meskanen" <v...@realsoft.com> >>>>>> To: <user-list@light.realsoft3d.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:18 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: V7 release date yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any news on v7 release date? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are testing the release candidates:) The expected release date is >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> October. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I digged up some quick experiments and demos created during >>>>>>> beta testing - the links are included below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vesa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Return of the good old Real3D lathe tool: >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/lathe.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Volumetric (Boolean) explosions: >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/explodebb.avi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The new trajectory object capturing simulation-driven motions: >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/explodetraject.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/extraj.avi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> V7 includes plenty of new ways to control particles: >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/axial2.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/headmit.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/hyperp.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/noiseburst.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/noisep.avi >>>>>>> http://www.realsoft.com/beta/examples/whirl.avi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2404 - Release Date: >>>>> 09/30/09 >>>>> 05:52:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 >>> 06:39:00 >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 > 06:39:00 > >
