I think that OFBiz is already sponsored just not quite how it would if
it was a standalone project. How can OFBiz exist if not for the
companies who have paid for getting it to work how they want it to and
then that flowing back in the form of developers who have time to commit
code.

Take the company that I work for - we use or will use OFBiz to power
every single part of our ecommerce business. This meant that we paid for
some of your time to consult and some of your time to write code most of
which has ended back in the project. Did my company sponsor OFBiz - well
in a weird round about way yes it did, perhaps more directly than
sending a cheque to ASF could have.

Just my 2 RMB worth of thoughts.




On 26/02/2010 04:51, David E Jones wrote:
> 
> Why would it need to come from committers? What do committers have to do with 
> sponsorship, or keeping you from helping with sponsorship?
> 
> BTW, this thread was really meant to cover the notion of commercial open 
> source versus community-driven open source. IMO OFBiz is community-driven 
> open source and is indeed driven by sponsors, both individuals and 
> organizations. How else would it exist?
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jacques:
>> I don't think I'm in any position to tell this group anything about how to 
>> get more sponsorship. That needs to come from the committers.
>> Ruth
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com>
>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>> Just to make my position clear: I am not advocating a "commercial project".
>>>> I think it is possible to get commercial sponsorship and still stay 
>>>> community-driven.
>>>
>>> Great Ruth,
>>>
>>> have you an idea on how to begin on this? Looks like we have already some 
>>> sponsors but of course not the size of some other TLP projects. I guess 
>>> it's due to the nature of the software and not its quality or anything else.
>>> Here in France I know some French Companies who are using OFBiz, but none 
>>> want to speak about that. Some even sell (sold?) it as their projects, with 
>>> some marketing and an IT team around, of course...
>>> You know what? Look at the French translation, you will better understand 
>>> my dissapointement some days... And I'm not speaking about the Neogia team, 
>>> which hopefully will help us much more some day.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <d...@me.com>
>>>>>> So here we go... we've got a community-driven project and people want it 
>>>>>> to be a commercial project. I've been pushing for years
>>>>>> for community-driven software and trying to attract developers to help 
>>>>>> build this thing, and for some history about that and
>>>>>> concepts related to it please see my blog:
>>>>>
>>>>> Who really want OFBiz  to be a commercial project? Not me for sure!
>>>>> This is a visionnary project, not only at the technical level. It will 
>>>>> take time to prove without the same means than commercial projects. Of 
>>>>> course this does not mean that nothing should change, but carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 

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