John

Not really interested in getting into a flame war, but I think your 
observations are obviously uneducated.  I have been writing Java code for 20 
years and I can assure you that I spend almost no time with any "tools" except 
a text editor and compiler.  If you live in the U.S., every banking transaction 
you make is processed by a program I (and a couple others) wrote in Java.  Most 
most run on a JVM (some run java natively).  A single reasonably fast machine 
is processing 40,000 of these transactions a second and they are non-trivial 
computations.

 I moved from C to Java when I started the banking application and I initially 
had the same sour taste as you have.  I quickly became a true believer.  You 
will too if you if you spend any honest time with it.

Java is perhaps the best language to use for any large and serious project 
where speed is required.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: John Spikowski [mailto:e-m...@johnspikowski.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:38 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: The OFBIZ-VM crashed


My observation has been, Java programmers spend more time in their
toolbox playing/learning then coding.

Can someone tell me what an OFBiz 'entity' is an how is it represented?
(object, structure, ...)





On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 19:59 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Good question.
> 
> I had to do exactly that once for our demos when I crossed this not obvious 
> bug
> http://bugs.java.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6973402
> I then mostly used https://eclipse.org/mat/
> 
> I since then also used the more complete https://www.yourkit.com/
> As an ASF committer you have few privileges. Like sometimes free access to 
> some tools, when you ask, it's not automatic.
> 
> Jacques
> 
> Le 09/04/2016 12:45, John Spikowski a écrit :
> > Disclaimer: Not trying to sound negative.
> >
> > How do you debug this monster after a crash?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 12:49 +0300, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
> >> John,
> >>
> >> You're confusing VM with JVM. And if you think Java is unstable perhaps
> >> read into it some more. Java is the most powerful eco
> >> -system for business on the planet!
> >>
> >> Taher Alkhateeb
> >> On Apr 9, 2016 12:46 PM, "John Spikowski" <e-m...@johnspikowski.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My biggest concern using Java is its fragile VM environment. What do you
> >>> tell a client when the Java balloon 'pops' and everyone goes 500?
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 11:16 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> The OFBIZ-VM crashed, so the demos were down, restarting...
> >>>>
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >



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