Thanks Paul!
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 09:39 -0500, Paul Mandeltort wrote: > John: overview of the entity engine is here: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Entity+Engine+Guide > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Entity+Engine+Guide> > > > > On Apr 11, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Skip <s...@thedevers.org> wrote: > > > > John > > > > Not really interested in getting into a flame war, but I think your > > observations are obviously uneducated. I have been writing Java code for > > 20 years and I can assure you that I spend almost no time with any "tools" > > except a text editor and compiler. If you live in the U.S., every banking > > transaction you make is processed by a program I (and a couple others) > > wrote in Java. Most most run on a JVM (some run java natively). A single > > reasonably fast machine is processing 40,000 of these transactions a second > > and they are non-trivial computations. > > > > I moved from C to Java when I started the banking application and I > > initially had the same sour taste as you have. I quickly became a true > > believer. You will too if you if you spend any honest time with it. > > > > Java is perhaps the best language to use for any large and serious project > > where speed is required. > > > > Skip > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Spikowski [mailto:e-m...@johnspikowski.com] > > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:38 PM > > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org > > Subject: Re: The OFBIZ-VM crashed > > > > > > My observation has been, Java programmers spend more time in their > > toolbox playing/learning then coding. > > > > Can someone tell me what an OFBiz 'entity' is an how is it represented? > > (object, structure, ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 19:59 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Good question. > >> > >> I had to do exactly that once for our demos when I crossed this not > >> obvious bug > >> http://bugs.java.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6973402 > >> I then mostly used https://eclipse.org/mat/ > >> > >> I since then also used the more complete https://www.yourkit.com/ > >> As an ASF committer you have few privileges. Like sometimes free access to > >> some tools, when you ask, it's not automatic. > >> > >> Jacques > >> > >> Le 09/04/2016 12:45, John Spikowski a écrit : > >>> Disclaimer: Not trying to sound negative. > >>> > >>> How do you debug this monster after a crash? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 12:49 +0300, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: > >>>> John, > >>>> > >>>> You're confusing VM with JVM. And if you think Java is unstable perhaps > >>>> read into it some more. Java is the most powerful eco > >>>> -system for business on the planet! > >>>> > >>>> Taher Alkhateeb > >>>> On Apr 9, 2016 12:46 PM, "John Spikowski" <e-m...@johnspikowski.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> My biggest concern using Java is its fragile VM environment. What do you > >>>>> tell a client when the Java balloon 'pops' and everyone goes 500? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, 2016-04-09 at 11:16 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The OFBIZ-VM crashed, so the demos were down, restarting... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > >