On 2/10/21 3:47 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 17:55, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
On 2/9/21 1:36 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 17:26, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
On 2/9/21 12:59 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Well I start to add new room option for 'suffix'
But find out I'm not sure how should it work
1) It is impossible to delete recordings from Moodle plugin
Currently it is possible, is it going to be 'impossible' ?
how?
Drag and drop it in the bin.
This is a deletion from OM UI
NOT from Moodle plugin :)
It serves the purpose :-) and the recording is deleted while in moodle
2) It seems filtering will also be useless due to 'suffix'
will be in effect _AFTER_ save, and not before
The suffix should be defined in the activity creation (input
text box) form, so when the activity is created, the teacher
will get something like 'moodle-ENG101' if the suffix is
defined as '-ENG101' and module is 'moodle' by default. And
in turn, a new group should be created in OM database called
'moodle-ENG101'.
And when the teacher finishes his lesson recording, he rename it,
and move it to the 'moodle-ENG101' group recordings that is
shown in his files tree
this step seems to be redundant
Currently, recordings are put by default in 'my recordings', so he
has to move it to 'group recordings', and this is a good thing, as
the teacher wants to review the recording before moving it to the
'group recording'.
yep
not redundant, but optional step :)
Good
, so that when he wants to created 'recording only' activity,
he can select:
1. The group name that belongs to him, then
2. The recording of that specific group.
this is part that will not work :(
when the teacher will create new activity all recordings for the
mail group will be selected
(due to at the moment of creation all fields of activity are
empty ....)
Fine, but at least sorted by module, suffix
In fact - no :(
recordings created at "moodle-ENG101" will not be visible while key is
"moodle" and the `suffix` is empty
to see them
teacher will need to create activity (with suffix)
save it
then edit
this looks to me as bad UX :(
Maybe you can suggest how it can be improved?
Yes, you are absolutely right, the teacher needs to create an activity
with 'suffix' mandatory field, and then he use this activity, enter the
room and do recording, only after that, the recording is visible.
:-)
sounds like I don't understand the use case :(
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 14:25, Maxim Solodovnik
<solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
The main issues we face:
1. All teachers share the same repository of
recordings which makes mistakes of deleting the
recording very common :-(
2. When using 'show recording' all recordings will
be on the list, can you imagine how many 'Chapter 1
- introduction' recording would be on the list ???
almost all teachers name their first lesson that.
these 2 will be addressed with new Moodle room option
3. And still in the plugin activity downloading the
recording is done in an internal name, not as named
by the teacher.
this need to be investigated
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:51 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Yes, moodle database is not UTF8 by default, but we
usually change it. And, yes, it has the same name,
however, one more thing, it was two word group name
separated by space 'النُّجُومُ الخَمْسَةِ'. if
single Arabic word without space is used then show
recording' will work as expected.
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 18:34, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
It seems that 'show recordings' did not work
was not because 'Module key' was not 'moodle',
but because 'Module key' was an Arabic name,
Aha!
this makes sense
Moodle database is not UTF8 by default
can you check in the logs (and in OM)
Does the group created in OM has the same name as
"Module key"?
when we changed it to English name, it did
work ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:54 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Than you @Max, see my response embedded ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 13:45, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
On 12/23/20 9:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Ali,
thirst of all we need to agree on
definitions :)
OM instance for me is "configured OM
server"
What do you mean by this?
Yes, thirst, but for new and enhanced
features :-)
I mean "first", sorry for the typo :(
That is OK :-)
OM instance is the activity created in
one class and not the plugin (OM
plugin), so let re-write:
moving 'Module key' from OM plugin
config to the config of OM activity
created in one class.
Moving "Module-key" is not an option
It also serves for security purposes i.e. to
make rooms/users/recordings of one connected
plugin to be inaccessible for another plugin
What I can propose is to add "suffix" i.e.
teacher/admin can create OM activity and
specify "Group" in additional field (empty
by default)
In such case module key will be `plugin key`
concatenated with `group`
Would it be OK?
Currently, 'Module key' will create a group
in OM server called 'moodle', and, unless it
is 'moodle' the usage of OM activity
(instance) as 'show recordings' will not work
! all other functions are OK, even recording,
sharing .... and if we put anything else
other than 'moodle', the plugin will create
that group, but 'show recordings' will not
show any recordings.
So, as per your idea (which is very good and
practical) 'Module key' will keep being
'moodle' in OM plugin configuration, however,
when creating an activity (instance), the
teacher will have an extra field to fill
(Group), lets assume it will be as course
name, how it will reflect in room tree of
recordings? currently we move recordings
(after renaming them) to 'Group recordings'
with the name 'moodle' so that 'show
recordings' can be used. Can you please share
your good thoughts :-)
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:02, Ali
Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>>
wrote:
I assumed so, but it did not.
Although we have tens of recordings
in private, group and public in so
many OM instances, the list always
shows 'no recordings'.
Only recordings made by user entered
from Moodle plugin with same key will
be listed
all those public, private etc. will not
be listed
True, but only for the creator in 'my'
and for group members in 'group' when in
the room of type 'conference' but non in
the 'Show recordings' unless Module key
is moodle !
I don't understand this comment :(
I just have tested: recordings works as
expected:
My steps:
1. add Activity
2. choose OM
3. fill `Room name`
4. select `Show Recording (select recording
from drop down to be shown instead of
meeting)` as `Room type`
5. select recording
6. save and display
Keeping in mind that:
- OM Data folder in out of OM
installation folder,
it doesn't matter
- Module key is not 'moodle'
it doesn't matter
- OM server is not on moodle server.
it doesn't matter
Ali
On 12/22/20 7:34 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
something like
1) you create Moodle room as usual
2) do recording
3) then create new OM activity
with type "Recording"
4) select recording you made on
step 2)
5) save
Result: your users will see OM
recordings panel with this
particular recording and can watch
it :)
sort of "share recording" to
Moodle users :)
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 20:19, Ali
Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>>
wrote:
How to use room type 'Show
Recording' ?
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