This was the point i was making early on. PHP is cheaper than java - in almost all ways.
Hosting: You can host php sites for a couple of pounds a month. Can you do that with java? Development: it's much easier to learn to make a PHP+Mysql databased web site. Therefore programmers are cheaper. Projects are cheaper. Therefore more web design companies use php rather than java. Servers: php has minimal overheads. It doesnt use a lot of memory, and it's pretty efficient at executing pages (in mod_php mode rather than cgi). It's probably not as good as already-compiled jsps, but similar. Java has huge memory overheads. e.g. on one of our servers, httpd (inc php) is using 10MB, Tomcat is using 140MB. Tomcat has 4 apps (all small), php 38. Most of our php apps are hosted on one server. Most of our java apps have a server each, and are on various companies intranets. But most of our java apps are much larger than the php ones - and a lot more maintainable! Dont get me wrong. I much prefer writing systems using Struts, and push for it. But, we wont be doing all our sites in java anytime soon, as it's cheaper to make small datbased sites in php. Daniel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tamas Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 July 2005 07:16 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!! > > > I wouldn't bet on PHP being more popular than Java webapps. > > I think that there will be more smaller Java webapps if there were much > support for them at web hosting companies. > I know several cases when Java webapp programmers, had to use PHP to > make some smaller webapps for someone because most web hosting companies > offer PHP support but they have no > Java webcontainers installed. > > Tamas > > > > Yan Hu wrote: > > >Xu: > >One of the reasons why you see a lot of PHP apps is that there > are always a lot more small apps > >than large scale ones. I can not imagin you program a large > scale site using PHP. If you are an OO > >guy, I could hardly imagin you even would like PHP(mixing all > server side code with html code). > >There are a lot of java intranet applications you will never be > able to access. PHP has its niche > >in the small app domain. It is fine. But it will never be at the > same level as Java. I do not > >understand why you think PHP is more popular than Java. Let me > ask you one simple question. Why > >are there so many more java jobs than PHP jobs? Anyone will tell > you it is because there is a lot > >more demand for java. So you get the idea. With the advent of > JSF, Java will be even sexier. I > >have long wished for something like asp.net code behind in C#. > Now we have JSF code behind in > >Java. If asp.net can be a big success, why can't JSF? > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
