The templates get unique names, however they are in the same folder structure.

e.g.

My S1 has
\\IPADDRESS\lonsec\template\tmpl\1\5

And my S2 has
\\IPADDDRESS\lonsec2\template\tmpl\1\5

Note that the '1' is the account ID of the user who created the template, in 
this case 'system' as this is a system vm template, the '5' is simply the 5th 
template created on this system

The two template.properties files contain the following

S1 template.properties file
#
#Mon May 20 14:11:06 UTC 2013
filename=d015ebd8-5395-31a5-9648-a179062885d8.vhd
vhd=true
id=5
vhd.filename=d015ebd8-5395-31a5-9648-a179062885d8.vhd
public=true
uniquename=centos56-x86_64-xen
vhd.virtualsize=21474836480
virtualsize=21474836480
checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
hvm=false
description=CentOS 5.6(64-bit) no GUI (XenServer)
vhd.size=1758786048
size=1758786048

S1 template.properties file
#
#Wed Nov 21 23:14:59 UTC 2012
filename=8b106378-7d6d-31b3-aab7-bfc85ef97884.vhd
vhd=true
id=5
vhd.filename=8b106378-7d6d-31b3-aab7-bfc85ef97884.vhd
public=true
uniquename=centos56-x86_64-xen
vhd.virtualsize=21474836480
virtualsize=21474836480
checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
hvm=false
description=CentOS 5.6(64-bit) no GUI (XenServer)
vhd.size=1758786048
size=1758786048
dsa

Note that the line
checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
is common to both, you will also find this value in the db in table 
cloud.vm_template
This is the link to the template on disk, and the one referenced in the DB

You can also see from the dates within the two properties files, that this 
template was originally deployed back in may, but when I added the 2nd 
Secondary Storage Node in November, the template was automatically copied 
across.

Hopefully all this info helps you.

Regards

Geoff Higginbottom

D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581

geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 December 2013 16:47
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS

Hi Jeff, thanks for that detailed explanation, I'm on the KVM by the way...
For the *volume* snaphost, I can see that real snapshot exist localy (I say 
real snaphost, not clone), but also the clone is created on 1 of those NFS 
servers...

Can you somehow instruct me to check if new template I have just created, is 
actualy copied on all 3 NFS hosts (all3 NFS are online, and working
fine) ?
Template is only 4GB of real size on the host, and it should be very quickly 
copied to where it shoyld be. (my IO and netowrk traffic are pretty low in 
general).

Should the templates files be created on all 3 NFS storages, with the same file 
name? Or can I see this somehow from the database...I'm trying to decode it by 
myself, but can't figure this out...

Thanks again,
Andrija




On 13 December 2013 17:35, Geoff Higginbottom < 
geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> Andrija,
>
> The design is that any Public Template, or ISO gets copied to every
> secondary storage in the zone.  The copying is undertaken by the SSVM
> and will obviously take some time if you have just added a 2nd Public
> ISO or Template, so your copy process may not have finished.
>
> For 4.2 'Snapshots' are now even more confusing than ever.  We now have:
>
> 1. VM Snapshots (ESXi & XenServer Only) these are true Hypervisor
> Snapshots, enabling quick roll back to the Snapshot, including Memory State.
> 2. Volume Snapshots (better thought of as Volume Backups)
>
> VM Snapshots remain on Primary Storage to enable the quick roll-back
> to Snapshot to work.
> Volume Snapshots (backups) get copied to Secondary Storage.  If you
> have more than one Secondary Storage available, the first backup is
> copied to one of the Secondary Storage volumes, chosen at random, then
> all subsequent backups are always copied to the same Secondary Storage
> volume
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 December 2013 16:29
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS
>
> HI Geoff,
> But, I have verified that my public templates are storaged only on 1
> host... (at least based on file name of the template on one of those
> host - these file names does NOT exist on other 2 NFS hosts...) Any clue ?
>
> Can you also confirm that now in 4.2, since snaphost are really a
> snapshots, they are not moved to secondary storage, but exist localy
> on the primary storage next to the original image they were created
> from (I can see this with lsof and qemu-img info).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 13 December 2013 17:21, Geoff Higginbottom <
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
> > You don’t need to copy Public Templates from S1 to S2 if they have
> > both been on line as Public Templates are always copied to every sec
> > storage in the zone
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Geoff Higginbottom
> >
> > D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
> >
> > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 13 December 2013 16:11
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS
> >
> > Just to correct myself: that guide:  tells nice job for migrating
> > snapshots.
> >
> > But I'm confused why only private templates should be migrated, why
> > not also the public ones?
> >
> > Quote from the page:
> > *"Note*: You must copy only private templates on Secondary storage
> > host S2 to S1."
> > And the whole guide is about migrating those private templates
> > (these are mostly system VM templates and such)
> >
> > What about public templates? I have predefined some public
> > templates, that as far as I can see, are only storaged on some of my 3 NFS 
> > hosts...
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 December 2013 16:51, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > HI,
> > >
> > > anyone has good doc/procedure for removing old NFS (migrate
> > > everything to new NFS server) ?
> > >
> > > I was thinking of editing the database - dump to sql file, search,
> > > replace old IP address with new IP address, and rsync everything
> > > from old NFS to new NFS, keeping the same directory structure.
> > > Then import the edited dump file.
> > >
> > > I also found some Citrix's guide, but that does not seem to
> > > migrate everything (only the system VM templates, as per my
> > > understanding after reading the docs...)
> > > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX135229
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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