This is definitely not expected. But, in the thread below I see you
writing that the restarting MS initiated template copy. Is that not the
case ?

On 16/12/13 11:58 AM, "Andrija Panic" <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well, only ISOs have been copied to the new NFS storage... no other
>templates...
>
>Is this expected behaviour or should I consider this a bug ?
>
>Any clue on troubleshooting this ?
>
>
>On 16 December 2013 17:05, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have just restarted the management server, and the templates copy
>> process has begin to the new NFS server...
>>
>> Will update.
>>
>>
>> On 16 December 2013 16:14, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> HI Geoff,
>>> I have just added new NFS secondary storage to CS.
>>> Can you please tell, when shall I expect all existing ISOs and
>>>templates
>>> to be copied over (start being copied...) - so far, I can observe NO
>>> network traffic.
>>> Is this maybe configurable like purge thread, or similar ? I have also
>>> issues the script for checking the SSVM (
>>> /usr/local/cloud/systemvm/ssvm-check.sh) and have no problems so far.
>>>
>>> More important, I can confirm that I do NOT have checksum inside the
>>> "template.properties" on public templates, only on system templates...
>>> And I can confirm that I do not have public templates being replicated
>>>on
>>> all NFS storages...that is strange. ISOs do get replicated, but public
>>> templates does not...
>>> Is this a bug or what...? I can not observer any errors in management
>>> log...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrija
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 December 2013 20:10, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much, I will check... that... funny thing, I search for
>>>> files created in last i.e. 1 hour, and there is only one file created
>>>>on 1
>>>> NFS, no files created on other NFSs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Google Nexus 4
>>>> On Dec 13, 2013 6:06 PM, "Geoff Higginbottom" <
>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The templates get unique names, however they are in the same folder
>>>>> structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>
>>>>> My S1 has
>>>>> \\IPADDRESS\lonsec\template\tmpl\1\5
>>>>>
>>>>> And my S2 has
>>>>> \\IPADDDRESS\lonsec2\template\tmpl\1\5
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the '1' is the account ID of the user who created the
>>>>> template, in this case 'system' as this is a system vm template, the
>>>>>'5' is
>>>>> simply the 5th template created on this system
>>>>>
>>>>> The two template.properties files contain the following
>>>>>
>>>>> S1 template.properties file
>>>>> #
>>>>> #Mon May 20 14:11:06 UTC 2013
>>>>> filename=d015ebd8-5395-31a5-9648-a179062885d8.vhd
>>>>> vhd=true
>>>>> id=5
>>>>> vhd.filename=d015ebd8-5395-31a5-9648-a179062885d8.vhd
>>>>> public=true
>>>>> uniquename=centos56-x86_64-xen
>>>>> vhd.virtualsize=21474836480
>>>>> virtualsize=21474836480
>>>>> checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
>>>>> hvm=false
>>>>> description=CentOS 5.6(64-bit) no GUI (XenServer)
>>>>> vhd.size=1758786048
>>>>> size=1758786048
>>>>>
>>>>> S1 template.properties file
>>>>> #
>>>>> #Wed Nov 21 23:14:59 UTC 2012
>>>>> filename=8b106378-7d6d-31b3-aab7-bfc85ef97884.vhd
>>>>> vhd=true
>>>>> id=5
>>>>> vhd.filename=8b106378-7d6d-31b3-aab7-bfc85ef97884.vhd
>>>>> public=true
>>>>> uniquename=centos56-x86_64-xen
>>>>> vhd.virtualsize=21474836480
>>>>> virtualsize=21474836480
>>>>> checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
>>>>> hvm=false
>>>>> description=CentOS 5.6(64-bit) no GUI (XenServer)
>>>>> vhd.size=1758786048
>>>>> size=1758786048
>>>>> dsa
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the line
>>>>> checksum=905cec879afd9c9d22ecc8036131a180
>>>>> is common to both, you will also find this value in the db in table
>>>>> cloud.vm_template
>>>>> This is the link to the template on disk, and the one referenced in
>>>>>the
>>>>> DB
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also see from the dates within the two properties files, that
>>>>> this template was originally deployed back in may, but when I added
>>>>>the 2nd
>>>>> Secondary Storage Node in November, the template was automatically
>>>>>copied
>>>>> across.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully all this info helps you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>>>
>>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>>>
>>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 13 December 2013 16:47
>>>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jeff, thanks for that detailed explanation, I'm on the KVM by the
>>>>> way...
>>>>> For the *volume* snaphost, I can see that real snapshot exist localy
>>>>>(I
>>>>> say real snaphost, not clone), but also the clone is created on 1 of
>>>>>those
>>>>> NFS servers...
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you somehow instruct me to check if new template I have just
>>>>> created, is actualy copied on all 3 NFS hosts (all3 NFS are online,
>>>>>and
>>>>> working
>>>>> fine) ?
>>>>> Template is only 4GB of real size on the host, and it should be very
>>>>> quickly copied to where it shoyld be. (my IO and netowrk traffic are
>>>>>pretty
>>>>> low in general).
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the templates files be created on all 3 NFS storages, with the
>>>>> same file name? Or can I see this somehow from the database...I'm
>>>>>trying to
>>>>> decode it by myself, but can't figure this out...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>> Andrija
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 December 2013 17:35, Geoff Higginbottom <
>>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Andrija,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The design is that any Public Template, or ISO gets copied to every
>>>>> > secondary storage in the zone.  The copying is undertaken by the
>>>>>SSVM
>>>>> > and will obviously take some time if you have just added a 2nd
>>>>>Public
>>>>> > ISO or Template, so your copy process may not have finished.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For 4.2 'Snapshots' are now even more confusing than ever.  We now
>>>>> have:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1. VM Snapshots (ESXi & XenServer Only) these are true Hypervisor
>>>>> > Snapshots, enabling quick roll back to the Snapshot, including
>>>>>Memory
>>>>> State.
>>>>> > 2. Volume Snapshots (better thought of as Volume Backups)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > VM Snapshots remain on Primary Storage to enable the quick
>>>>>roll-back
>>>>> > to Snapshot to work.
>>>>> > Volume Snapshots (backups) get copied to Secondary Storage.  If you
>>>>> > have more than one Secondary Storage available, the first backup is
>>>>> > copied to one of the Secondary Storage volumes, chosen at random,
>>>>>then
>>>>> > all subsequent backups are always copied to the same Secondary
>>>>>Storage
>>>>> > volume
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Geoff Higginbottom
>>>>> >
>>>>> > D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>>> >
>>>>> > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
>>>>> > Sent: 13 December 2013 16:29
>>>>> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> > Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS
>>>>> >
>>>>> > HI Geoff,
>>>>> > But, I have verified that my public templates are storaged only on
>>>>>1
>>>>> > host... (at least based on file name of the template on one of
>>>>>those
>>>>> > host - these file names does NOT exist on other 2 NFS hosts...) Any
>>>>> clue ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Can you also confirm that now in 4.2, since snaphost are really a
>>>>> > snapshots, they are not moved to secondary storage, but exist
>>>>>localy
>>>>> > on the primary storage next to the original image they were created
>>>>> > from (I can see this with lsof and qemu-img info).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 13 December 2013 17:21, Geoff Higginbottom <
>>>>> > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > You don't need to copy Public Templates from S1 to S2 if they
>>>>>have
>>>>> > > both been on line as Public Templates are always copied to every
>>>>>sec
>>>>> > > storage in the zone
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Regards
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Geoff Higginbottom
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > > From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
>>>>> > > Sent: 13 December 2013 16:11
>>>>> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: Merging/Removing Secondary Storage NFS
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Just to correct myself: that guide:  tells nice job for migrating
>>>>> > > snapshots.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > But I'm confused why only private templates should be migrated,
>>>>>why
>>>>> > > not also the public ones?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Quote from the page:
>>>>> > > *"Note*: You must copy only private templates on Secondary
>>>>>storage
>>>>> > > host S2 to S1."
>>>>> > > And the whole guide is about migrating those private templates
>>>>> > > (these are mostly system VM templates and such)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > What about public templates? I have predefined some public
>>>>> > > templates, that as far as I can see, are only storaged on some of
>>>>> my 3 NFS hosts...
>>>>> > > ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanks
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 13 December 2013 16:51, Andrija Panic
>>>>><andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > HI,
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > anyone has good doc/procedure for removing old NFS (migrate
>>>>> > > > everything to new NFS server) ?
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I was thinking of editing the database - dump to sql file,
>>>>>search,
>>>>> > > > replace old IP address with new IP address, and rsync
>>>>>everything
>>>>> > > > from old NFS to new NFS, keeping the same directory structure.
>>>>> > > > Then import the edited dump file.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I also found some Citrix's guide, but that does not seem to
>>>>> > > > migrate everything (only the system VM templates, as per my
>>>>> > > > understanding after reading the docs...)
>>>>> > > > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX135229
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Thanks.
>>>>> > > >
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