Askild My skills are similar to yours... but, I have not seen any documents or examples that deal with the creation of a full-fledged DB app that only uses XSLT, XML, SQL-transformer and Flow/CForms. I'd be very happy if you can point me in the right direction.
Thanks. P.S. XSP is *not* deprecated (see other threads for this). >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005/06/14 12:34:26 PM >>> Derek Hohls wrote: >Tom > >Ok; that is one viewpoint. But I think these quotes from the Wiki: >http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GettingStartedWithCocoonAndHibernate >are also pertinent: > >"Be aware that you will not be ready to write Hibernate-based applications >in 5 minutes. You are about to venture into a complex topic. Sit back, get a >cup of tea and prepare for some **days** of reading and learning. >The following skills are mandatory: >You need to be proficient in Java..." > >I did spend a fair chunk of last year downloading and days reading through >the Hibernate documents - they do seem fairly comprehensive and >well-written... but they are not simple or straightforward. And for >someone like myself, with skills in XML, XSLT, Javascript, SQL... all of >which have been more than sufficient to develop webapps with Cocoon over >the past few - the add-in of high-level Java skills to the mix is a really >"gotcha" >that significantly raises the learning barrier here. > >So to rephrase my original point - is this the only way to develop interactive >database webapps with Cocoon - or should PHP start looking like an attractive >option once more?! > > > It's the "only" way if your skills are in Java only... ;-) The Cocoon-community seems divided in two different camps; one that use it as a Java-development framework, and another that uses it as an XML-development framework. I myself belong to the second, using only XML, XSLT, transformers (e.g. SQL), XSP (e.q. ESQL) and Flow. A lot of people will point my finger at me shouting "bad practice", XSP is deprecated! The original idea behind XSP was to have an efficient way to prototype/script generators, but having been misused for "control" in the MVC-pattern, some looks at XSP itself as bad design... So, sitemaps, XSLT, XML, SQL-transformer and optionaly Flow will get you a long way to develop yout interactive database wepabb. Used in the right manner, it works - brilliantly! In the end it's your ability to design a good architechture that saves the day, not a lot of fancy tools and frameworks. Askild - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]