Niels You say: " For example, Ard put a lot of work in making a website skeleton generator, which basically does that whole first step of deciding how to set up the application for you. The generated skeleton is preconfigured
with subsitemaps, caching and everything, and it contains many little components that do things like paging of lists, mounting subsitemaps based on our specific navigation concept, etc. This skeleton generator meant a giant leap in productivity for our implementation partners. Getting up and running is no longer a problem, and through the pre set up skeleton the developers seem to get better at working with the Cocoon concepts much faster. At some point they might even discover that things could be done in a better way than in the skeleton!" Is there anyway you would consider making this generator - well documented, of course :-) - available to the community? It might inspire some of us to adopt a similar approach and, who knows, may lead to a whole, new, better way of doing things. It seems most people agree that getting started with Cocoon is a big leap and, while I do not agree that you need to know *everything* before you start (not for simpler use cases, anyway), anything that maximisers the ability to get going "straight out of the box" is surely of great help? Cheers Derek (Who is now wondering how he can do something similar for his "simple" flow-based database app...) -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]