On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> pocallag...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the
> > > > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what Steam is....
> > >
> > > It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm not
> > > a big gamer but occasionally I indulge. Unfortunately this means using
> > > the Nvidia drivers, at least for the titles I've tried.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I had to revert to nouveau recently
> > > > because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct
> > > > configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop.
> > >
> > > My reason for switching to Nouveau originated in randomly not being
> > > able to resume from hibernation when using the Nvidia drivers
> > > (discussed on another thread). So it seems I can have either Steam or
> > > hibernation, but not both.
> > >
> >
> > This sort of trade-off is all too common, occurs across distros, and
> usually
> > requires experimentation by each user to figure out what works for a
> > particular use case.   These days distros have converged to the point
> > that many bugs affect multiple distros,
> >
> > In a small fraction of cases, the details show up in a mail list or
> forum.
> > In a small fraction of those cases, someone who really understands
> > the issue explains how to get to the root cause of the malfunctions.
> > Fedora users in particular should expect to run into problems and
> > should be prepared to invest some time digging into the problem
> > and documenting the findings.
> >
> >
> > Do you recognize your steam problem at
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Steam_runtime_issues?
>
> I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers
> it works perfectly well. My problem is with hibernation. See the thread
> starting at:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.
> fedoraproject.org/thread/K3AI2V6AAW3SXYD4WI7AKUVP7HGYQRN5/#
> NLCYKEWHYTODJPM7QHHUCH22LCEQOWCQ
>
>
You mentioned problems with Steam under Nouveau.  Sorting that means more
people, including you, can use Nouveau.   Sorting a problem involving
Nvidia
drivers is more likely to be an exercise in frustration since we aren't
allowed
to see big parts of the code that might be involved.


-- 
George N. White III <aa...@chebucto.ns.ca>
Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
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