On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:

> Anders Hammar wrote:
>> Eh, not sure what you mean. Are you asking where in the Maven docs it is
>> stated that the pom should be correct? I think that would go without saying,
>> don't you? A default pom is most likely never correct, as think Jason said
>> earlier in this thread.
>> 
>>  
> Cute but not likely the issue. I think we can take correct POMs as a given
> 

If it is in Maven Central it will be correct from now on. But there are many 
POMs that are not correct and what Anders is referring to are the generated 
POMs when you install 3rd party dependencies into your own local repositories. 
Those are almost certainly incorrect. Unless the artifacts you are installing 
have no dependencies then they are wrong. It's a stop gap and we probably 
shouldn't even allow it anymore.

> Where does the documentation describe how to make a POM for a 3rd party 
> module and why that is worth doing.

For anything going into Central the document is here:

http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-central-repository-upload.html

You should really follow the same procedure we follow there. 

> What is the minimum info required? What are the optional things that you 
> should try to add for a module that is open source and for one that is not?
> 
> Ron
>> /Anders
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 13:46, Ron Wheeler
>> <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Anders Hammar wrote:
>>> 
>>>    
>>>> Nexus is good, but it can't do magic. It will not solve the fact that
>>>> there
>>>> are no poms/metadata and therefore no dependencies info. You still need to
>>>> fix that yourself.
>>>> I'm not a fan of just uploading the jars and using the default pom (no
>>>> dependency info) as it will break Maven's dependency management. Artifacts
>>>> like this will make Maven "look bad" and take away some of the pleasure
>>>> working with Maven.
>>>> 
>>>> Please invest in creating correct poms. If the source/project is open
>>>> source
>>>> it shouldn't be too hard.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      
>>> Where is that documented/mentioned in the Maven docs?
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>>    
>>>> /Anders
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:08, Ron Wheeler
>>>> <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      
>>>>> I can recommend that you install the Nexus repository.
>>>>> You can easily upload libraries like Language Tool and it will find it
>>>>> right away.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It has a lot of other benefits as well and makes using Maven much more
>>>>> pleasant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It can proxy all the other repos that you use and that makes you
>>>>> workstation setup very easy - just configure your Nexus as a mirror of
>>>>> all
>>>>> other repositories. Maven will only ask one place. You can add a new
>>>>> foreign
>>>>> repository to your Nexus configuration and immediately it available to
>>>>> all
>>>>> your developers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Community version is free and is very easy to install.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have only had mine running for the past few months and wish I had done
>>>>> it
>>>>> 2 years ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken Egervari wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Hi, I am using a library called Language tool. Since it does not have a
>>>>>> maven repository anywhere, I had to make a local one for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately, every time I execute any maven task, Maven will check all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> repositories for updated copies. This process can be rather slow and I'd
>>>>>> rather maven just skipped it for these locally added libraries. This is
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> it spits out. How do I stop it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release/languagetool/languagetool/1.0.0/languagetool-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:languagetool:
>>>>>> pom:1.0.0' in repository com.springsource.repository.bundles.release (
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone/languagetool/languagetool/1.0.0/languagetool-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:languagetool:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository Springframework milestone (
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/languagetool/languagetool/1.0.0/languagetool-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:languagetool:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository jboss (http://repository.jboss.com/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/languagetool/languagetool/1.0.0/languagetool-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:languagetool:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository snapshots.jboss.org (http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/languagetool/languagetool/1.0.0/languagetool-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:languagetool:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release/languagetool/resource/1.0.0/resource-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:resource:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository com.springsource.repository.bundles.release (
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone/languagetool/resource/1.0.0/resource-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:resource:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository Springframework milestone (
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/languagetool/resource/1.0.0/resource-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:resource:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository jboss (http://repository.jboss.com/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/languagetool/resource/1.0.0/resource-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:resource:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository snapshots.jboss.org (http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/languagetool/resource/1.0.0/resource-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:resource:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release/languagetool/rules/1.0.0/rules-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:rules:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository
>>>>>> com.springsource.repository.bundles.release (
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone/languagetool/rules/1.0.0/rules-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:rules:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository
>>>>>> Springframework milestone (http://maven.springframework.org/milestone)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/languagetool/rules/1.0.0/rules-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:rules:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository
>>>>>> jboss (http://repository.jboss.com/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/languagetool/rules/1.0.0/rules-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:rules:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository
>>>>>> snapshots.jboss.org (http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/languagetool/rules/1.0.0/rules-1.0.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:rules:pom:1.0.0' in
>>>>>> repository
>>>>>> central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release/languagetool/segment/1.3.0/segment-1.3.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:segment:pom:1.3.0' in
>>>>>> repository com.springsource.repository.bundles.release (
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone/languagetool/segment/1.3.0/segment-1.3.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:segment:pom:1.3.0' in
>>>>>> repository Springframework milestone (
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/languagetool/segment/1.3.0/segment-1.3.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:segment:pom:1.3.0' in
>>>>>> repository jboss (http://repository.jboss.com/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/languagetool/segment/1.3.0/segment-1.3.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:segment:pom:1.3.0' in
>>>>>> repository snapshots.jboss.org (http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/languagetool/segment/1.3.0/segment-1.3.0.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:segment:pom:1.3.0' in
>>>>>> repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release/languagetool/morfologik/1.2.1/morfologik-1.2.1.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:morfologik:pom:1.2.1' in
>>>>>> repository com.springsource.repository.bundles.release (
>>>>>> http://repository.springsource.com/maven/bundles/release)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone/languagetool/morfologik/1.2.1/morfologik-1.2.1.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:morfologik:pom:1.2.1' in
>>>>>> repository Springframework milestone (
>>>>>> http://maven.springframework.org/milestone)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/languagetool/morfologik/1.2.1/morfologik-1.2.1.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:morfologik:pom:1.2.1' in
>>>>>> repository jboss (http://repository.jboss.com/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2/languagetool/morfologik/1.2.1/morfologik-1.2.1.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:morfologik:pom:1.2.1' in
>>>>>> repository snapshots.jboss.org (http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2)
>>>>>> Downloading:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/languagetool/morfologik/1.2.1/morfologik-1.2.1.pom
>>>>>> [INFO] Unable to find resource 'languagetool:morfologik:pom:1.2.1' in
>>>>>> repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Thanks,

Jason

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