I make the distinction where Maven deploys and putting something in production 
is provisioning.

On Sep 17, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Gorham-Engard, Frank wrote:

> I can't help wondering if this entire discussion is continuing because of 
> semantics.
> 
> I think you are talking about two uses of the word deploy. For a "Maven 
> Deploy" a standard Maven repository is probably best. For a "Production 
> Deploy" we must use whatever the production environment provides. If you are 
> 'deploying' an artifact to be acquired by another Maven project then it is a 
> "Maven Deploy". If you are 'deploying' a product into a production 
> environment (where it will execute, for example) it is a "Production deploy".
> 
> How can we de-obfuscate the word deploy that was overloaded by the Maven use? 
> Also, consider the other overloaded words: package, install, validate, 
> verify, etc.
> 
> I suppose, on a Maven forum, the words should be used the Maven way. But 
> ,then how do you ask about the other contexts?
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] 
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 5:12 PM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Deploy with SFTP tries to cd to parent too many times
> 
> 
>  On 06/09/2010 2:19 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
>> On Sep 6, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> 
>>> Get Nexus up and running and start to enjoy using Maven.
>> I'm sensing a theme here. Anybody reminded of that old joke? "Doctor, it 
>> hurts when I move my arm like this." Doctor: "Then don't move your arm like 
>> that."
>> 
>>> It is free. It is easy to install and configure.
>> ...
>>> We are a small team of 3 but it was well worth the time to get it up and 
>>> running.
>> That you are a small team of 3 is very likely the reason why you found it 
>> easy to install and configure. I'm assuming one of you 3 set up the server 
>> yourself, correct? And had root access to it?
> Correct
>>  You probably didn't have to expose Nexus outside the firewall, either.
>> 
> No. We are a distributed operation.
>> These are all advantages I'm lacking. I'm working remotely as an external 
>> contractor and have no control over the company's servers. And it doesn't 
>> help that I'm the only person using Maven in an all-Microsoft shop.
> Probably more trouble than its worth. Stick with Ant or use the 
> Microsoft tools
>> They'd have to integrate the Nexus server's user account management with 
>> Microsoft Active Directory. (Is that even possible?) And they'd also have to 
>> configure their firewall just for me so that I may access Nexus from the 
>> outside.
> They should know how to do this. I am not sure why you would bother with 
> Active Directory for 1 person. Just use Nexus' authentication.
> 
>>  This is a company with thousands of employees and a full-time IT security 
>> engineer; punching holes in their walls is not something they take lightly. 
>> In short, installing Nexus is by no means easy.
>> 
>> But the company already happens to have a web server with SFTP access 
>> outside the firewall. They've given me an account on it. I'm simply trying 
>> to piggyback on this as a repository and use SFTP for deployment, since SFTP 
>> is a "supported" deployment method.
> So they do know how to expose services safely within their environment.
> 
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
>> 
>> Trevor
>> 
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Thanks,

Jason

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